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Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by skyzyx »

matthewfelgate wrote: post #24
ghusto wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, I'm vaguely aware of it. I just don't think the developer should be forced to care in a PR.

Imagine the repo had the Nazi flag for USA; Would it be political to want to correct that?

False equivalence.

A better example would be having the confederate flag. Except that the confederacy being dissolved is already a decided issue at the national level. (Also most Americans are only familiar with the confederate army flag, and not the confederate national flag.)

China and Taiwan have no such agreement. Taiwan says one thing, mainland China says the opposite. There is no resolution.

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by skyzyx »

matthewfelgate wrote: post #21
ghusto wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Imagine putting the Russian flag for the Ukrainian language for an idea of how Chinese people feel about this topic. Or rather, how Ukraine's would feel, doesn't it make more sense that way around? > You've made a political choice by using the Taiwan flag in the first place so don't blame others for "bringing politics into it" just because you don't have understanding on the subject. There's a country called Taiwan…

>Or rather, how Ukraine's would feel, doesn't it make more sense that way around? That's my point. You think there is no politics between China and Taiwan?

I’m a dual citizen of Canada and the US. But I also know that if there’s a language selector, and I see the British flag, I know it’s gonna get me English.

Perfection is impossible when human beings are involved.

Please stop manufacturing rage.

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by poiuyt098 »

jfernandezr wrote: post #28

Not talking about politics, here, but a flag usually denotes a country or region, not a language. You should use a flag when you're referring to a country or region, for example when you have an e-commerce website and are just distributing in certain areas. But languages do not have flags associated and then should not be used in language selectors. Check that the example in the GH thread has Spanish as one of their…

This is something I really hate in KDE- you choose date/time formats with a dropdown of flags, and it doesn't even give you a preview of the short format, so you have to cycle through hundreds of options and click-click-click each to find what you want, when all that's needed is [Language] + [yyyy-mm-dd HH:MM]* (or whatever) format string.

there are far fewer format options than countries, so this is an exercise in frustration

(*en_SE.UTF-8 btw)

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by dsjkvf »

lampington wrote: post #31

It's an old one, but this alleged Steam screenshot handles the problem quite well, as well as fixing the use of the UK flag for English: https://jakubmarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/english-t...

I wonder, if Steam still has Russian localization, btw...

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by fmajid »

WinstonSmith84 wrote: post #12
blkhawk wrote: post #4

I find it amazing how cool and collected the response was.

I'm also amazed that the Github profile of the OP was not newly created just for this purpose. Instead he looks like a legit developer... just obv a hardcore nationalist ...

Those Social Credit Scores don't just earn themselves, you know...

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by fmajid »

WhatDFHere wrote: post #2

It's sad when politics enters the community in git. Ugh.

China regularly uses the Great Cannon (the offensive DDoS capabilities of the Great Firewall) against GitHub because it hosts free VPN software mainland Chinese can use to work around censorship. So whether they want it or not, they are involved already.

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by Takennickname »

_nalply wrote: post #48
stby wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just a service for the Swiss to warn them about the occasional use of "ß".

Huch? The Swiss don't care. Really. My son sees the sharp s everyday in school and nobody has explained to him what it is and nobody is asking him to replicate that letter. No need to warn the Swiss.

I mean the language is called German. Seems appropriate to use the German flag.

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by creatonez »

greazy wrote: post #34
jfernandezr wrote: post #28

Not talking about politics, here, but a flag usually denotes a country or region, not a language. You should use a flag when you're referring to a country or region, for example when you have an e-commerce website and are just distributing in certain areas. But languages do not have flags associated and then should not be used in language selectors. Check that the example in the GH thread has Spanish as one of their…

So what should be used as the icon for languages? I accidently changed languages in my phone to Arabic on android. It uses no icons to display languages, when a language is chosen all the options changed to the localized Arabic names. I think the only logical solution is to display the options in the language, eh Arabic in Arabic letters, English in English letters etc. But icons would still be useful. But there isn'…

A good solution: for each language option, include both the exonym (name of the language in the user's currently selected language) and the endonym (name of the language in that particular language). Make sure the search feature can fuzzy match either field.

And yes, do not include any icons whatsoever. Text only. A standard for visual depiction of languages is not going to come any time soon, and flags are completely unsuitable for the purpose.

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