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A Caltech Nobel laureate celebrates his 100th birthday, then gets back to work

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The older folks typically also benefited from getting into housing when it was less scarce, riding one or more waves of progress, at a time where healthcare ROI was much higher. My generation faces a different economic situation. I know people in academia that love what they do and dreamed of living a life like Rudy's. In practice, they're stuck - huge debts, dismally low post-grad wages, stuck renting, just hoping f…

Not everything is about housing, in particular someone choosing to work to 100+ doesn't really have anything to do with housing.

The main reason an academic career seemed infeasible to was because I would never comfortably afford the housing. I went broke my first summer living alone and decided to become a software engineer.

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The older folks typically also benefited from getting into housing when it was less scarce, riding one or more waves of progress, at a time where healthcare ROI was much higher. My generation faces a different economic situation. I know people in academia that love what they do and dreamed of living a life like Rudy's. In practice, they're stuck - huge debts, dismally low post-grad wages, stuck renting, just hoping f…

All the folks in my peer group who followed their left-leaning parents mantra of doing something interesting, something that you love, got absolutely screwed. As much as I hate big tech, I cannot blame anyone for pursuing it.

My parents are on the far right. It was only after I ignored their rugged individualism Ayn Rand style beliefs that I got anywhere in life and now I'm doing fine. That's probably why I consider it to be such a scam. YMMV.

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If you’ve still got the energy, why not? I think the most important thing is are you enjoying it? Does it feel fulfilling? There’s a lot of pressure to conform to what’s expected of you and if you can ignore that you’ll probably be much happier than most people.

Because arguably it reduces demand for the next generation to do their thing. And if too many do it then it also becomes a necessity for more in the same age cohort to afford housing and transportation.

This assumes the economy is a zero-sum game. It is not, or it shouldn't be.

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Budd : They say the number one killer of old people is retirement. People got a job to do, they tend to live a little longer so they can do it. I've always figured that warriors and their enemies share the same relationship. (Kill Bill: Vol 2)

By "retirement", people generally mean no longer working for money. That doesn't mean you can't find things to do.

Yeah, but the popular image is the kind you see in the moving picture "About Schmidt"

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No, but it helps to own a house if you wish to work to 100+

Would work just as well when renting.

Color me skeptical. By the time you’re retired, you probably want your own place with minimal expense. Renting means you’re at the mercy of landlords and at that age I don’t think you’d be happy with that kind of arrangement.

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Pretty offensive to suggest that someone should “step aside for the next generation”. Personally I’d rather work for someone with more experience (all else being equal), but ultimately the best ideas and execution will win.

Not suggesting people go off and die, or be thrown off a cliff. Rather that they consider there are some downsides to society at large if they unnecessarily work late in life. FWIW, I was responding to the question "why not? [keep working]".

Given the demographic situation nearly everywhere in the world, there’ll be no shortage of work for the young, and a pronounced need for the old to keep working.

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Not suggesting people go off and die, or be thrown off a cliff. Rather that they consider there are some downsides to society at large if they unnecessarily work late in life. FWIW, I was responding to the question "why not? [keep working]".

Given the demographic situation nearly everywhere in the world, there’ll be no shortage of work for the young, and a pronounced need for the old to keep working.

Must it be that way? Can't we settle for less, individually and as a society? Must the numbers always go up, consequences be damned?

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Not suggesting people go off and die, or be thrown off a cliff. Rather that they consider there are some downsides to society at large if they unnecessarily work late in life. FWIW, I was responding to the question "why not? [keep working]".

This seems like a counterintuitive idea. Older people helping to make more products/services is a downside to society at large? I would understand if “working” was a competition for limited resources. But if it is, in fact, a value generating activity, how does it harm society at large? e.g. Having more doctors work until later, if they are capable, is not a net positive for our society’s ability to provide healthcar…

Some demand for workers scales well, virtually unlimited. Yet many are not. And as tech quickly takes more and more jobs, older workers contribute to the competition for shrinking demand for human labor.

Now advances in tech may continue to increase demand for workers elsewhere, once training and workers catch up. Or maybe not as much as roles are lost.

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If you’ve still got the energy, why not? I think the most important thing is are you enjoying it? Does it feel fulfilling? There’s a lot of pressure to conform to what’s expected of you and if you can ignore that you’ll probably be much happier than most people.

Because arguably it reduces demand for the next generation to do their thing. And if too many do it then it also becomes a necessity for more in the same age cohort to afford housing and transportation.

> Because arguably it reduces demand for the next generation to do their thing.

Another "the cake is finite" dumb argument?

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