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Reinventing the E.R. for America’s mental-health crisis

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Re: Reinventing the E.R. for America’s mental-health crisis

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The facilities described in this article seem to be broadly similar to a "psychiatric intensive care unit", a care concept that has been developed in the UK and Australia in recent decades.

If you've ever been in an emergency department, you'll know that it's far from ideal if you're experiencing an acute mental health crisis. EDs are often noisy, chaotic, and aren't equipped to provide the continuity of care and supervision that acutely mentally ill patients need.

A PICU isn't all that radical in concept; a service broadly similar to an inpatient psychiatric unit, but tailored to provide rapid access to short-term crisis care for the most acutely ill patients, as a stepping stone towards either a longer-term inpatient admission or discharge into community care. It's a very useful service that provides a much better alternative to ED admissions, but it's only part of a well-functioning mental healthcare system. If you don't have good community care services, you're just creating a revolving door.

The vast majority of people living with severe and enduring mental illness can live successfully and independently in the community, but they need a solid base of support from a multidisciplinary team to establish a stable and health-promoting life. It's not rocket science, but you do need joined-up care to support all aspects of wellbeing - medical care, substance abuse treatment where applicable, but also support with housing, work and community integration.

That kind of wraparound support obviously doesn't come cheap, but it's a heck of a lot cheaper than either locking people up in long-term institutional care or just patching up their most acute problems and sending them back out on the street.

Re: Reinventing the E.R. for America’s mental-health crisis

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Alternative title: "Bringing back the asylums without admitting we were wrong about closing them"

The asylum system was so much worse for the victims than homelessness that it's not even funny. It existed just to hide these facts of life from the most fortunate and spare their feelings. All at the expense of the committed that were horrifically abused. And no, you won't do it right this time.

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Re: Reinventing the E.R. for America’s mental-health crisis

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Something is seriously wrong with our culture the past 10-15 years to have contributed to such a dramatic rise in mental illness.

Is there a rise in mental illness or more people simply being diagnosed now? We're more aware of mental illnesses, leading to more diagnoses, leading to what appears to be a spike in mental illness. I haven't dug deeply into this but I wonder if studies on this have attempted to separate the two. Psychology is notorious for it's crisis of reproducibility. I take everything related to mental illness with two heaping s…

There is absolutely a rise. We live in a continually more digital and disconnected world, disconnected from each other and nature.

Re: Reinventing the E.R. for America’s mental-health crisis

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Something is seriously wrong with our culture the past 10-15 years to have contributed to such a dramatic rise in mental illness.

Is there a rise in mental illness or more people simply being diagnosed now? We're more aware of mental illnesses, leading to more diagnoses, leading to what appears to be a spike in mental illness. I haven't dug deeply into this but I wonder if studies on this have attempted to separate the two. Psychology is notorious for it's crisis of reproducibility. I take everything related to mental illness with two heaping s…

One way to cut the nonsense is to look at things that can't be fudged.

Suicide is an example. You can't "overdiagnose" suicide unless you outright lie that it happened. The rate for suicide was something like 10/100K in 2001 and is hovering at 14/100K now. This is a significant increase.

If more people are killing themselves, it's almost certain that there are far more people are also miserable or struggling than there used to be.

This seems like pretty direct reasoning, but I suppose it could be flawed.

Re: Reinventing the E.R. for America’s mental-health crisis

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Something is seriously wrong with our culture the past 10-15 years to have contributed to such a dramatic rise in mental illness.

I can't talk about culture but in Australia, this definitely correlates with the spread of methamphetamine.

Meth-induced psychosis is a very real thing.

Re: Reinventing the E.R. for America’s mental-health crisis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a rise in mental illness or more people simply being diagnosed now? We're more aware of mental illnesses, leading to more diagnoses, leading to what appears to be a spike in mental illness. I haven't dug deeply into this but I wonder if studies on this have attempted to separate the two. Psychology is notorious for it's crisis of reproducibility. I take everything related to mental illness with two heaping s…

One way to cut the nonsense is to look at things that can't be fudged. Suicide is an example. You can't "overdiagnose" suicide unless you outright lie that it happened. The rate for suicide was something like 10/100K in 2001 and is hovering at 14/100K now. This is a significant increase. If more people are killing themselves, it's almost certain that there are far more people are also miserable or struggling than the…

> Suicide is an example. You can't "overdiagnose" suicide unless you outright lie that it happened.

People have been outright lying about suicides for a long time.

Re: Reinventing the E.R. for America’s mental-health crisis

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a rise in mental illness or more people simply being diagnosed now? We're more aware of mental illnesses, leading to more diagnoses, leading to what appears to be a spike in mental illness. I haven't dug deeply into this but I wonder if studies on this have attempted to separate the two. Psychology is notorious for it's crisis of reproducibility. I take everything related to mental illness with two heaping s…

One way to cut the nonsense is to look at things that can't be fudged. Suicide is an example. You can't "overdiagnose" suicide unless you outright lie that it happened. The rate for suicide was something like 10/100K in 2001 and is hovering at 14/100K now. This is a significant increase. If more people are killing themselves, it's almost certain that there are far more people are also miserable or struggling than the…

Yep, suicide rates increased by 20-30% across all races, ages, and genders over roughly a decade between 2006 and 2018 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db464.htm

Re: Reinventing the E.R. for America’s mental-health crisis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One way to cut the nonsense is to look at things that can't be fudged. Suicide is an example. You can't "overdiagnose" suicide unless you outright lie that it happened. The rate for suicide was something like 10/100K in 2001 and is hovering at 14/100K now. This is a significant increase. If more people are killing themselves, it's almost certain that there are far more people are also miserable or struggling than the…

> Suicide is an example. You can't "overdiagnose" suicide unless you outright lie that it happened. People have been outright lying about suicides for a long time.

Do you mean in regards to under-reporting to save face?
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