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Shopify employee breaks NDA to reveal firm replacing laid off workers with AI

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Post by mouse_ »

bushbaba wrote: post #234
usednet wrote: post #174

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The logical conclusion that people don’t like to hear is that there will need to be a fundamental restructuring of the economy. AI will, in the not so distant future, eliminate the vast majority of jobs. The choice will then be between a socialized economy or barbarism.

Totally disagree. You could have said the same of Industrial Revolution. Yet here we are living better lives from the technological breakthroughs. AI will just usher the next industrial revolution of the modern era.

Totally disagree. The Industrial Revolution is the catalyst for a major extinction event, and our current trajectory is to certain doom.

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Post by diatone »

bushbaba wrote: post #234
usednet wrote: post #174

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The logical conclusion that people don’t like to hear is that there will need to be a fundamental restructuring of the economy. AI will, in the not so distant future, eliminate the vast majority of jobs. The choice will then be between a socialized economy or barbarism.

Totally disagree. You could have said the same of Industrial Revolution. Yet here we are living better lives from the technological breakthroughs. AI will just usher the next industrial revolution of the modern era.

Worth pointing out, we live better lives not just from the technological breakthroughs, but also from the social movements that have brought us things like the 40-hour work week and keeping children from labour for a reasonable time. Which were direct responses to the Industrial Revolution.

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Post by nverno »

vikinghckr wrote: post #231
nverno wrote: post #215

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This quality of life metric is purely economic, but it is easy to read it as general life quality- personally, I'd swap now for 1820s homesteading out west in a heartbeat even though that would register as 'extreme poverty' on the economic scale.

Well, for a start, it's safe to assume you're not a woman or a minority. And even if you're a young healthy white male, your quality of life would be significantly worse in the 1820s. Not only would you lose access to a lot of the everyday conveniences of life today, you're also far more likely to die a young and painful death from any number of disease.

Conveniences don't make life worth living, and a long life doesn't mean a good life. Do you really think people, on average, enjoyed their lives less back then? I don't

Re: Shopify employee breaks NDA to reveal firm replacing laid off workers with AI

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Post by bugglebeetle »

bushbaba wrote: post #234
usednet wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The logical conclusion that people don’t like to hear is that there will need to be a fundamental restructuring of the economy. AI will, in the not so distant future, eliminate the vast majority of jobs. The choice will then be between a socialized economy or barbarism.

Totally disagree. You could have said the same of Industrial Revolution. Yet here we are living better lives from the technological breakthroughs. AI will just usher the next industrial revolution of the modern era.

> You could have said the same of Industrial Revolution. Yet here we are living better lives from the technological breakthroughs.

You understand that the course of the Industrial Revolution was a huge increase in barbarism, correct? People forced off their lands, children into factories, labor conditions that were horrendous across the board. Violent labor upheavals, WWI, a communist revolution, the rise of fascism and the Holocaust, WWII and the first use of nuclear weapons. Only in the wake of all of that was there anything like the widespread improvement of people’s lives and in places like the US, this still required a tumultuous and again violent dismantling of segregation.

I certainly don’t hope the AI evolution follows the example of its industrial counterpart, or we’re in for a quite wild ride.

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Post by tempodox »

cm2012 wrote: post #35

This is good for society just like any productivity enhancing invention. You'd think a place like HN would know that the only way the world has ever gotten better has been innovation improving per-human output.

How did this “improve” the “per-human output” of those who lost their jobs?

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Post by CyberDildonics »

bushbaba wrote: post #234
usednet wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The logical conclusion that people don’t like to hear is that there will need to be a fundamental restructuring of the economy. AI will, in the not so distant future, eliminate the vast majority of jobs. The choice will then be between a socialized economy or barbarism.

Totally disagree. You could have said the same of Industrial Revolution. Yet here we are living better lives from the technological breakthroughs. AI will just usher the next industrial revolution of the modern era.

AI will just usher the next industrial revolution of the modern era.

How will it do that? So far the only things being automated are Q&A and image generation.

Re: Shopify employee breaks NDA to reveal firm replacing laid off workers with AI

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Post by Loquebantur »

bushbaba wrote: post #234
usednet wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The logical conclusion that people don’t like to hear is that there will need to be a fundamental restructuring of the economy. AI will, in the not so distant future, eliminate the vast majority of jobs. The choice will then be between a socialized economy or barbarism.

Totally disagree. You could have said the same of Industrial Revolution. Yet here we are living better lives from the technological breakthroughs. AI will just usher the next industrial revolution of the modern era.

Any such post-AI jobs are predicated on there being a difference between AI and humans in favor of the latter.

I presume, you imagine large parts of the population will be happy working in the sex industry or similar?

People's irrational assumption, the past could always be linearly extrapolated into the future is remarkably out of place when it comes to the epitome of non-linearity, intelligent consciousness.

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Post by WirelessGigabit »

coryrc wrote: post #181
darawk wrote: post #165

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Lol. Nobody is choking on smoke. The earth is fine. Humans may make life slightly more difficult for themselves in the next century or two due to global warming, but those difficulties will be more than offset by advances in technology, even under pessimistic assumptions.

No one except most Canadians, the West Coast, Midwest, and Northeast of the US. And Texas too apparently: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/environm... Is there anywhere in the continental US not affected by wildfire smoke? Hawaii is probably doing alright.

Doing pretty well in Phoenix. For as long as the AC keeps up!

Re: Shopify employee breaks NDA to reveal firm replacing laid off workers with AI

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Post by bdangubic »

gwbrooks wrote: post #143
bdangubic wrote: post #119

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So the plan is screwing over the company you're buying goods from? Where can I like and subscribe for more of these amazing life hacks? (/s)

here’s few more: - you never have to buy stamps. just put address where you want letter to be sent in the sender area of the envelope and address it to whomever and drop it in the mailbox without postage. post office will return mail without postage to sender which is exactly where you want letter to go

any more? ;)

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