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Shopify employee breaks NDA to reveal firm replacing laid off workers with AI

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Some folks who do this feel like if the store is making them work, they might as well get paid for it. I guess there is the argument that using self check out saves the store money so you should enjoy some savings too. I'm curious whether retailers have already built that into the price everyone pays.

exactly ;)

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The mean quality of life is irrelevant if the mode quality of life is only a tenth of that.

The mode quality of life is also sky high compared to 100 years ago. So is the median quality of life. Mode and median were raised even faster than the average. Humanity managed to uplift a huge fraction of people out of extreme poverty. In 1820s around 70-80% people lived in extreme poverty In 1920s it was around 60-70% In 2020s it's around 10% source: e.g. https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/e20f2f1a-en/index.html?…

As somebody with a degree in economics who did research in this area, I strongly disagree. I cannot stress how important is to not equate poverty data with quality of life. Let me give you an example of how economic statistics can be misleading. In colonial India, economic production and GDP skyrocketed. Forests were razed, waterways were privatized, communal granaries were destroyed, etc. Agricultural production increased massively, yet hundreds of millions of Indian people starved and died.

It is absolutely not clear-cut that poverty has actually decreased on a long term scale. The real wage evidence shows less poverty and higher incomes during precolonial times in several countries. The datasets are woefully incomplete and flawed prior to 1900. Furthermore, the global poverty line is still set at $1.90 (!), and reexaming the decrease in poverty using more realistic costs of living results in very little change. Compounding on that, the vast majority of poverty reduction in the last century has been in China, a non-capitalist country. Removing them from the dataset results in almost no change in global poverty in the last 50 years. I can go on.

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Grocery stores and others absolutely still need cashier checkout. If I have a handful of items I can barcode swipe and even a couple pieces of produce that's fine. But they simply aren't designed for a full shopping cart which includes a ton of non-barcoded items. Ditto with home repair stores. Scan a new smoke detector? Sure. Check out a bunch of lumber etc. That would be no. In my experience, most stores are findin…

Self checkout shoppers should be timed just like cashiers. I swear everyone else using the self chicken are moving in slow motion.

Charging self-checkout shoppers will go over really well I'm sure. Let us know how it goes.

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So the plan is screwing over the company you're buying goods from? Where can I like and subscribe for more of these amazing life hacks? (/s)

this isn’t mom&pop shops, these are big business who spent a lifetime stealing whenever they can and are now not even having workers check people out but we as shoppers should be honest…

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If the promise of AI means I can do 1/2 the amount of work and maintain my high quality life, then I'm all for it. However, every advancement that has come in the last 100 years that improved efficiency has only meant we're pushed to work more and do more. So I am now expected to do 2x the work. If you're really dreaming for AI that can wipe-out entire classes of decent middle-class jobs in one big swing, don't forge…

The mean quality of life is sky high compared to 100 years ago and it is such thanks to the advancement made.

What about quality of life compared to 50 years ago? I guess it depends on country but I feel like my parents generation lived better life compared to mine.

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If the promise of AI means I can do 1/2 the amount of work and maintain my high quality life, then I'm all for it. However, every advancement that has come in the last 100 years that improved efficiency has only meant we're pushed to work more and do more. So I am now expected to do 2x the work. If you're really dreaming for AI that can wipe-out entire classes of decent middle-class jobs in one big swing, don't forge…

Not every innovation, for a long while it was linked to benefits but then I think the 1970's they started stripping away unions, worker rights and pay, hours etc. started becoming detached from productivity.

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That this even needed to be said on a forum like HN baffles me. I suspect it's a result of decades of mainstream political/cultural doom-and-gloom propaganda.

This quality of life metric is purely economic, but it is easy to read it as general life quality- personally, I'd swap now for 1820s homesteading out west in a heartbeat even though that would register as 'extreme poverty' on the economic scale.

You can do this right now! It's called "Alaska".

Re: Shopify employee breaks NDA to reveal firm replacing laid off workers with AI

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If the promise of AI means I can do 1/2 the amount of work and maintain my high quality life, then I'm all for it. However, every advancement that has come in the last 100 years that improved efficiency has only meant we're pushed to work more and do more. So I am now expected to do 2x the work. If you're really dreaming for AI that can wipe-out entire classes of decent middle-class jobs in one big swing, don't forge…

The logical conclusion that people don’t like to hear is that there will need to be a fundamental restructuring of the economy. AI will, in the not so distant future, eliminate the vast majority of jobs. The choice will then be between a socialized economy or barbarism.

There are many pathways to such a restructuring and not all of them are wide enough to accommodate 8 billion people.

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so, you are a thief. congratulations

and companies getting rid of workers and stealing their entire existence are good in your book…? too funny
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