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A Caltech Nobel laureate celebrates his 100th birthday, then gets back to work

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Re: A Caltech Nobel laureate celebrates his 100th birthday, then gets back to work

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Post by Given_47 »

RangerScience wrote: post #42
RangerScience wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a big difference between having a purpose in your life, something you love doing, that happens to be done at a work place; and being an employee. IMHO it is absolutely a good thing to dream of a life which values things outside of employment. We just happen to use the same word - “work” - for both kinds of situations.

Related - My friend group is a bunch of (predictably) nerds, and describing the times I want to keep working on an interesting tech problem for my employer as "wizarding" has been fairly successful. It's specifically a D&D reference, since what I'm usually doing is figuring out a new pattern ("spell") to add to my repertoire ("spellbook") that I can then use in many other situations. It's... difficult, to convey to p…

Yea it’s pretty disheartening that these r common experiences. Admittedly, I don’t kno a ton about UBI but I’d imagine the idea of giving people more security so they can pursue their interests in careers and not have to suffer thru a daily grind solely for a paycheck is a tenet of it

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Post by tough »

zw123456 wrote: post #57

Hi there, old person here. Tomorrow is my 65th birthday. I had vowed to myself that I would completely and totally retire, Finally, at 65. But then, this "thing" cropped up and the day after tomorrow, I am pitching my 3rd startup to investors. I wonder, am I crazy. But I feel passion for this project. So, I am throwing myself into the fray again, there is no logical reason to do so. So, Rudy, I understand.

hey, not so old but feeling old to not have done much yet, thanks for reminding me that I can still be kicking 35 years from now.

I'd say if you have the fire go for it fren

Re: A Caltech Nobel laureate celebrates his 100th birthday, then gets back to work

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Post by dctoedt »

Alex3917 wrote: post #12

Apropos of Oppenheimer coming out, the guy who invented the H-bomb currently works as a covid researcher. (Or at least an amateur one, not sure what he’s actually doing.)

Wikipedia: "[Dick] Garwin received his bachelor's degree from the Case Institute of Technology in 1947, and two years later his Ph.D. from the University of Chicago under the supervision of Enrico Fermi at the age of 21."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Garwin

Re: A Caltech Nobel laureate celebrates his 100th birthday, then gets back to work

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Post by RangerScience »

Given_47 wrote: post #61
RangerScience wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Related - My friend group is a bunch of (predictably) nerds, and describing the times I want to keep working on an interesting tech problem for my employer as "wizarding" has been fairly successful. It's specifically a D&D reference, since what I'm usually doing is figuring out a new pattern ("spell") to add to my repertoire ("spellbook") that I can then use in many other situations. It's... difficult, to convey to p…

Yea it’s pretty disheartening that these r common experiences. Admittedly, I don’t kno a ton about UBI but I’d imagine the idea of giving people more security so they can pursue their interests in careers and not have to suffer thru a daily grind solely for a paycheck is a tenet of it

100% yes. I usually think of / describe that aspect of UBI (theoretically) as "the job all other jobs have to compete with."

Like - there's a floor on how shitty a job can be, if no job is a valid alternative.

Re: A Caltech Nobel laureate celebrates his 100th birthday, then gets back to work

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Post by pdonis »

Alex3917 wrote: post #12

Apropos of Oppenheimer coming out, the guy who invented the H-bomb currently works as a covid researcher. (Or at least an amateur one, not sure what he’s actually doing.)

"Invented" is an overstatement. He authored the first detailed H-bomb design, but he didn't invent the design concept that it embodied: Teller and Ulam did. Teller instructed Garwin to produce a detailed bomb design based on the Teller-Ulam concept.

Re: A Caltech Nobel laureate celebrates his 100th birthday, then gets back to work

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Post by mrtksn »

Kamq wrote: post #59
mrtksn wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am a bit too lazy to go back into Thiel talks and find the relevant quotes, however, if I recall correctly He talks about Einstein and similar physicists on how they were not compensated correctly and not being billionaires despite their huge contributions to the society and how they made wrong life choices.

Fair enough. Einstein definitely pre-dates what I'm talking about, so if he's included, then this guy definitely is.

To be fair, I recall him criticising the capitalist system too for not rewarding the scientists properly. He is not a simple person.

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Post by JumpinJack_Cash »

mrtksn wrote: post #4

Wow, such a winner: Long, healthy life full of accomplishments within a community where he is liked and he likes them back. I wonder what people like Peter Thiel have to say about it, would he consider Rudy Marcus a "winner", maybe bigger one than himself? I recall something about Thiel looking down on the life choices and motivations of scientists.

> > I wonder what people like Peter Thiel have to say about it

Who gives a fuck? He's just a guy, much like this guy is just a guy.

Don't waste space and give me your take as opposed to mentioning other people, because they are not here and they cannot debate, while you are and can.

Re: A Caltech Nobel laureate celebrates his 100th birthday, then gets back to work

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Post by Kamq »

mrtksn wrote: post #66
Kamq wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair enough. Einstein definitely pre-dates what I'm talking about, so if he's included, then this guy definitely is.

To be fair, I recall him criticising the capitalist system too for not rewarding the scientists properly. He is not a simple person.

> He is not a simple person.

I'm gonna be honest here. I don't think anyone is.

Re: A Caltech Nobel laureate celebrates his 100th birthday, then gets back to work

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Post by iamflimflam1 »

zw123456 wrote: post #57

Hi there, old person here. Tomorrow is my 65th birthday. I had vowed to myself that I would completely and totally retire, Finally, at 65. But then, this "thing" cropped up and the day after tomorrow, I am pitching my 3rd startup to investors. I wonder, am I crazy. But I feel passion for this project. So, I am throwing myself into the fray again, there is no logical reason to do so. So, Rudy, I understand.

If you’ve still got the energy, why not? I think the most important thing is are you enjoying it? Does it feel fulfilling?

There’s a lot of pressure to conform to what’s expected of you and if you can ignore that you’ll probably be much happier than most people.

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