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The ones who are journalists, writers or artists are currently getting destroyed by AI. Engineers are next on the menu and will be affected. Henceforth, as LLMs get better at code, there would be less engineers and jobs created for both juniors and seniors. It does not matter.
AI doesn't complain, get sick, care, protest or give a damn. It is coming and it's not going to stop at all.
This is just the start, just wait until most LLM can outperform junior devs on the quality of generated code.
The value of a junior dev is not the code they manage to produce. It’s their potential to become mid and senior later on. What I’m trying to say is that LLMs don’t change anything here. Juniors are not hired for the work they can produce when hired.
The upcoming generation better learn how to start as junior architect.
>These job cuts, according to the employee, were driven not merely by a CEO’s misguided “bet,” but rather a shift towards replacing full-time employees with cheaper contract labor Good Lord, how much cheaper can you get than Canadian labor? They already get paid poorly and earn about 1/2 or less than their US counterparts. I guess the lack of jobs is why they can pay so little, explains why so many Canadians flee to…
But yeah, I’ve worked for ridiculously cheap companies before here. Some who are well-known to conspire with local competitors not to poach each other’s employees to keep salaries down.
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No one is talking about 15$ an hour data labeling and I’m pretty sure you know that. Being obtuse on purpose. If you’re actively replacing people’s jobs rather than helping people… well, you’ve got to look at yourself in the mirror every night.
What if replacing people's jobs is helping people? Milk men, computers (the people kind), horse carriage chauffeurs, people who light lamp posts (when they were oil based) we could go on here. You are clearly coming from empathic place, but I am not sure your premise is nuanced enough. Lots of progress has "victims" but that doesn't necessarily make progress had.
The key bit of information I’m missing is where did those milk men, carriage chauffeurs, lamp lighters, whatever go and how did they get there after they were rendered useless .
Did they retrain for new careers? If so how did they afford the education/retraining necessary. How did they pay their rent/mortgage/etc. in the time in between it took them to do that? What are the new jobs that are going to be created after sweeping automation in service and knowledge industries?
I can think of a few jobs that probably won’t see automation anytime soon, but a lot of them are crap, or would result in a major quality of life degradation. I remember years before ChatGPT reading a lot of speculation on automation and what potential careers could survive in the face of some AI or robotics revolution and the jobs people considered safe from automation were things like caregiver. Just a quick google search shows the pay range for that job near starting at minimum wage.
Genuine question, I really don’t know. Personally I’d love to leave the software industry, but I don’t have any realistic alternative. Rent keeps getting more expensive, never less and the jobs that pay enough to keep up require expensive credentials that don’t only require a lot of money, but a lot of time as well.
I probably should read up on the history of this sort of stuff, but I take a look at places like the rust belt and it seems like the next career for a lot of the people in blue collar work that was moved or automated was “opioid addict”. Personally if I lose everything and am forced out on the street because I’m obsolete, I don’t give a flying shit what kind of new jobs there are, because they’ll be inaccessible to me.
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If you think that AI only benefits shareholders then you're the one with exceptional short term vision. Broadening access to AI will massively benefit all humans
In the socioeconomic utopia we'll build in the meantime?
What's the disclosure that breaks the NDA this tweeter is supposed to have had? I searched every quote in the thread and they're all already public. Tweet #11 shows as "unavailable", but the archived version at https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1681673980682305541.html refers to a "Code Yellow" that did leak, but in March: https://www.businessinsider.com/shopify-issues-code-yellow-f... I tried to find people complai…
If the promise of AI means I can do 1/2 the amount of work and maintain my high quality life, then I'm all for it. However, every advancement that has come in the last 100 years that improved efficiency has only meant we're pushed to work more and do more. So I am now expected to do 2x the work. If you're really dreaming for AI that can wipe-out entire classes of decent middle-class jobs in one big swing, don't forge…
If the promise of AI means I can do 1/2 the amount of work and maintain my high quality life, then I'm all for it. However, every advancement that has come in the last 100 years that improved efficiency has only meant we're pushed to work more and do more. So I am now expected to do 2x the work. If you're really dreaming for AI that can wipe-out entire classes of decent middle-class jobs in one big swing, don't forge…
The logical conclusion that people don’t like to hear is that there will need to be a fundamental restructuring of the economy. AI will, in the not so distant future, eliminate the vast majority of jobs. The choice will then be between a socialized economy or barbarism.
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Have you been using ChatGPT to solve work problems? I have. It's amazing. This technology can do amazing things and companies should be using it to solve problems. Of course I think it can improve things. Think about what happens when companies start to build corporate LLM's trained on their docs, code, knowledge base, support tickets, etc. You're going to have super human support. Sure, this might assist the current…
What do you mean by “work problems”. Writing regex? SQL? Exclusively software development? Outside of this, even using for “summarizing” documents, you are lucky if it doesn’t distort or twist meanings such that it isn’t useful, except now you have spent as much or more time checking it’s work than just doing it yourself. Checking others’ work is much harder than writing it. Every time I’ve attempted to ask it someth…
I trust exactly 0 output from any LLM. The problem with any of this sort of generative AI is that there's nothing that stops it from hallucinating facts and spewing those with a confident tone. Until we can figure out the trust and validation step, none of it is truly helpful.
I'm not a luddite, I just find these tools to be woefully lacking. Anything they can do takes me more time to validate than just doing it myself.