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Re: A brief history of computers

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The sections on the super early years were great. A lot of ideas and perspectives in there that I have not heard before. The later sections personally didn't do as much for me, but that's probably only because I am more familiar with those topics.

Thank you to the author for creating this! This style of super personal historical overview is very enjoyable. I like how the author says outright to take everything with a grain of salt and I like how they call out things about the narrative that don't make sense to them.

Re: A brief history of computers

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post #4

Seems pretty reasonable for someone doing their own high level research. Notably missing any references to telegrams and telephone systems.

In terms of causes and forces, the influence of telecommunication on computing is really hard to overstate. In the Internet era, I think some might be unaware that telecommunication definitively came first, and in my view, effectively led directly to computers. From the electrical engineering perspective, the earliest relay and vacuum tube computers were built out of elements developed for radio and telephone exchang…

For example during the 1800's sport results were already being telegraphed and printed into dotted paper.

Re: A brief history of computers

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Not specifically computers, but if you want a very deep dive into the creation of the internet (including some bits about the earliest computers) The Dream Machine is a great, and extensive look at the history of the internet through the lens of J.C.R. Licklider's life. It was rather mind blowing to me in various ways, one of the big ones being that it seems a lot of early computer pioneers weren't only mathematicians and physicists, but also psychologists.

Re: A brief history of computers

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> I'm confused though. Babbage came up with the blueprints for his Difference Engine in the 1820s. I know he never succeeded at actually building it, but he never really had a fair chance if you ask me.

Babbage had a chance to build his difference engine. The problem was that the engineering was a lot harder than he thought it was going to be, and he was a mathematician/economist, not so much a working engineer. The idea that if only he had had a better chance the difference engine would’ve been successful is just simply a misreading of what happened. It didn’t help that after the British government poured tens of thousands of pounds into the project Babbage suddenly decided to start pushing analytical engine before he had even finished the difference engine. That made it look like these were just wild, cockeyed schemes, when Babbage was supposed to be engaged in a practical, mechanical calculating project (to help reduce the labor expended on computing, for example, navigational tables).

Re: A brief history of computers

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post #15

> I'm confused though. Babbage came up with the blueprints for his Difference Engine in the 1820s. I know he never succeeded at actually building it, but he never really had a fair chance if you ask me. Babbage had a chance to build his difference engine. The problem was that the engineering was a lot harder than he thought it was going to be, and he was a mathematician/economist, not so much a working engineer. The…

> The problem was that the engineering was a lot harder than he thought it was going to be

This is true of many (most?) innovations. E.g. the steam engine: people knew about steam power, and built primitive steam engines. Watt succeeded eventually in manufacturing one that had the right mix of reliability, power, cost, maintainability to be widely useful. E.g. the jet engine : Whittle conceived of turbine aircraft power during WW1, but didn't succeed in manufacturing a viable engine and putting it in a plane until the end of WW2.

Re: A brief history of computers

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One interesting question (which is very hard to answer) is how many of the ideas were passed down vs. re-invented, and how much theory influenced practice: - I think Mauchly and Eckert (of ENIAC) in the 1940's were unaware of Babbage (1810's) - There was the (in)famous von Neumann paper describing the ENIAC and patent lawsuit - https://www.historyofinformation.com/detail.php?id=639 - this page says that "most likely"…

Most written history is "bunk" in that it's a long-after interpretation of events in the context of what we know today. That's why Turing features heavily -- because he's a colorful character about which many books have been written and movies made that people watch today. But Tommy Flowers is never mentioned.

The computer wasn't really invented at all. It evolved from earlier things in a step-wise manner. There were computing machines for decades prior. E.g. before WW1 there were sophisticated gunnery computers that could fire shells taking account the vector velocity of a ship, wind, distance measured optically, movement of the attacking ship. Boolean logic was used in telephone switching systems. Boolean circuits already existed both in electromechanical form (relays) and electronics (vacuum tubes|valves). So when Turing decided he needed a machine to do so and so calculations on some kind of data, Flowers didn't need to invent Boolean logic nor design Boolean circuits -- those already existed off the shelf. Teleprinters existed. Paper tape existed.

Re: A brief history of computers

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A decent brief history. Author should look into Vannevar Bush. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vannevar_Bush

Agreed. My history emphasized the Bush/memex -> Engelbart/Online System -> Alto -> Mac and Engelbart -> Berners-Lee/WWW lineages: http://whatarecomputersfor.net/machines-for-millions/
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