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A randomly generated password is not incompatible with the notebook approach...
It is when they are all a variant of each other. I can't imagine him successfully writing down a bunch of none alphanumeric characters and not giving up.
Why even let users set their own passwords?
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Re: Why even let users set their own passwords?
#72> Rather than allowing a user to set their own password, passwords can be issued in exactly the same way as API keys are now: a high-entropy password is randomly generated by the issuing website, and the user is shown the password once only and asked to record it. If the password is lost, a new password must be generated using the same process. The user cannot choose their password, but can get a new randomly generat…
For regular pushing you are expected to use a SSH key, and those are far easier to add.
Re: Why even let users set their own passwords?
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s all fun and nice until someone decides to antagonise you and they intentionally make three failed login attempts for your username into the website every n hours, keeping you unable to sign into your account.
I think that most people can come up with more effective ways to annoy someone.
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#74Edit: I’m talking about first-party cookies.
Re: Why even let users set their own passwords?
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I kinda wish there was something like cookies, but even more persistent. Lets call them permacookies. I want to "remember my device", and have that keep me logged in forever with a permacookie. I don't even want to have a username and password. I want to create an account and be forever logged in. There would be mechanisms to backup my permacookies, or transfer them to other devices. I'd have control of which sites c…
Honestly that feels like what apps are. One of the most compelling reasons to install an iOS app for something like an online bank is so that I won't have to worry about my cookies expiring and forcing me to login again.
Like can't the login-state be part of the backup? If I was logged in when the backup was taken, I should still be logged in when restored to a new device.
Re: Why even let users set their own passwords?
#76I've said it before and I'll say it again (and yes let it rain downvotes): I don't understand this whole discussion and maligning of passwords. You cannot save all people. Some fixed %-age of people will always become victims - either by choosing a terrible password or by being shot in the foot by some terribly complex 5FA device-based passphrase scheme that attempts to protect them but ends up betraying the user onc…
Do you know that major tech companies saw a near 100% reduction of successful phishing attacks after adding yubikeys? The population there is hardly uneducated, yet they still had quite a few break-ins. Some of the companies have also nearly removed passwords, changing the minimum length requirement to something like 5 lowercase characters. They still experience a near zero, or zero, phishing success rates.
Re: Why even let users set their own passwords?
#77This article is the very embodiment of how I think about authentication! I once tried explaining to a top-brass security professional at Microsoft why mandatory, SMS-based '2FA' wouldn't be an improvement over simple passwords - they just didn't get it. I wish I could have shown them this essay. Legitimising 'Risk-Based Authentication' as a strategy is a big mistake in the software industry. It allows criminals to si…
Pardon my ignorance, but isn’t this saying “we can’t rely on reducing the likelihood of breaches, we should focus on reducing the likelihood of breaches”? Your recommendations are no more deterministic than the methods you eschew.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Using economics terminology doesn’t make this insensitive opinion any more valid. Technology is for people, not the other way around.
Nobody gets to decide what's more or less sensitive. Younger generations can argue being rendered homeless due to mass housing affordability issues is also insensitive.
Re: Why even let users set their own passwords?
#79I wonder if “true multi factor” security requires exclusivity between each factor. So, you cannot “know” anything about the “thing you have”. It should be more like a yubikey that you plug into your computer and which is secure enough that you cannot get the information out of it to “know” it. That’s a little harder to do for the “thing you are” factor because we can’t design a system to use a feature we can’t unders…
Re: Why even let users set their own passwords?
#80> This step is commonly something like “enter the code in an email we just sent” when trying to login. Because email is insecure, and there is zero guarantee that your login email will arrive before the token expires. Your token does expire, right? > We are literally living through the gradual phase-out of third-party cookie. Yes, and a "remember this device" uses a first-party cookie, so it isn't affected. > My own…
No it does not. Users will find one high-enough-entropy variant of their password, and reuse it across all sites for life.
> Authentication is pretty much a solved problem
Hrm. It might be solved for you and users like you - but it depends on your site's demographics: most internet users on the whole will not know anything about encrypted "password lockers" and "physical Webauthn tokens". Browser-managed passkeys, on the other hand, stand some chance of being easy enough to use while enforcing good security and high entropy secrets, but lack widespread adoption so far.