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Confronting failure as a core life skill

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Re: Confronting failure as a core life skill

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> How do you talk about your failures? The big ones like shutting down your company, going unemployed for months, or getting fired.

OK, those things can be upsetting, and create some unexpected chaos in your life. But if that's the worst you ever have to deal with, you aren't really doing too bad.

"It could be worse" can sound like small comfort, but really, it could be worse.

Re: Confronting failure as a core life skill

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Squandering wealth through sheer incompetence and lack of qualifications isn’t the kind of story people want to believe about themselves. Better to spin it as a positive step on the road to self-realization, ideally with a pit stop in paradise with time to “reflect”.

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post #4

I wish I could be more honest with my failures, but people have abused my trust so many times I have lost count. at some point you just have to cut your losses and keep it to yourself, or to a few select few.

Right here with you. At my last company, I tried to get the team comfortable “I don’t know,” “that didn’t pan out,” etc. I couldn’t get the lead on the other team to catch on. He’d bullshit an answer over a few minutes in a meeting, and Product and Management would eat that shit up. That team was no better/worse at failure than anyone else, but apparently non-engineers can’t be bothered with the truth of humans: we’r…

Entirely agree. I’ve had trouble distilling this attribute or whatever into a specific quality. Maybe probabilistic thinking? But the bar for acknowledging when u don’t kno something should be pretty low.

> we’re failure machines looking for the right answers because we just can’t know everything.

Yea this is a real problem. I wish stats and probability were more emphasized in high school. And it really doesn’t matter if people understand the math, the primary goal should be to get students at least familiar, and hopefully comfortable, with the concepts of chance and randomness. And having students internalize the concept of a confidence interval could help form a mental model of how to go about making assertions and the danger of overstating things.

The overstating things part is definitely ingrained in the American culture at least but I feel that this could really chip away at that

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post #18

I am pretty open about my past failures with others but I definitely understand why people aren't. There is a stigma associated with failure that society still hasn't accepted. My last job I held the title of VP of Engineering. It was a small company and during my time there I recognized that the title was outsized for what I actually did. I was actually more of an Engineering Manager. All of my direct reports were I…

Was there a strong reason why you never just… changed the title on your résumé? I would assume the position you ended up in is a function of many different things, but if people embellish their accomplishments on their résumés by making them seem “bigger”, i see no reason why it’s not worth changing it to seem smaller.

Re: Confronting failure as a core life skill

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right here with you. At my last company, I tried to get the team comfortable “I don’t know,” “that didn’t pan out,” etc. I couldn’t get the lead on the other team to catch on. He’d bullshit an answer over a few minutes in a meeting, and Product and Management would eat that shit up. That team was no better/worse at failure than anyone else, but apparently non-engineers can’t be bothered with the truth of humans: we’r…

What changed since then? Asking for a friend ;)

Nothing changes much, you start looking for inner peace initially, get away from noise. The experience now lives with you as far as you are alive. A huge mark on your brain which you revisit each time you are about to make a new decision. If you become sick from rushing to create some value, you slow down, get more consistent, move slow and safe. Otherwise you keep same speed until you hit a wall, then the damage will be much higher compare to the previous ones.

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post #2

About how grappling with and learning from failure starts with the language we use around it.

Agree with this. Failure is a contested concept.

What is defined as failure for one, is success for another. Failure detection is skewed by "the loudest voice" and "the strongest arm." Morals, ethics, scientific standards, and social hierarchy all fighting for a chance to define and redefine failure. What one person can happily do without question could be the kryptonite for another. Not to mention gender roles.

The weird part, at least for me, is that people are not consistent. What is a failure in one aspect is a success in another; it's not objective. There's almost always a spin. Probably autism a bit but, at least be consistent and honest.

Re: Confronting failure as a core life skill

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Failure is a complex issue for many of us (me def included). While I do think it's really important for us to be able to openly talk about failure, I think it's just as important (if not more) to frame failure as not just part of the process but as a good thing. Mistakes is how many of us learn and even if we can learn other ways, making mistakes can be a fantastic teacher. I've found that learning from them dulls th…

It would not be healthy to frame failure (which involves pain, bad feelings) a good thing. Considering mistakes a teacher would also be a mistake. Nice that it worked for you but considering humans as complex as they are the same prescription would not apply to all.

Re: Confronting failure as a core life skill

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I was enjoying the 1 minute I could read of this until something popped up asking to do something and I just clicked away!!!

It is really annoying how substack hides or blends the Continue reading link when authors ask for readers to convert into subscribers. At least clicking outside modal should be considered "continue reading". I find this as aggressive subscriber hunting.
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