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Google tests A.I. tool that is able to write news articles

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Re: Google tests A.I. tool that is able to write news articles

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Post by hulitu »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #7

I’d love to hear somebody try to explain how this won’t negatively impact the labor market for journalists. My guess is that the argument will be that the “tools will simply help augment rather than replace the writer.” We know, however, that some small segment of implementations will actually in fact, cause someone to be fired or replaced, and things will get slightly worse for the consumer. An alternative explanati…

> I’d love to hear somebody try to explain how this won’t negatively impact the labor market for journalists.

The AI is not able to construct a lie so credible like some journalists.

Re: Google tests A.I. tool that is able to write news articles

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Post by papichulo2023 »

hnburnsy wrote: post #89

Here is the template to write a news article... State some facts as reported by others (never link to supporting documents only summarize them) Quote from expert or eyewitness on why this is important Quote from other expert why this might not be important (optional as this might make the story not truly news worthy) State that confusing aspects of the story are "unclear" Fill the rest of the story from articles on t…

Missing cookies (we care about your privacy lol) and subscription popups

Re: Google tests A.I. tool that is able to write news articles

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Post by hulitu »

paganel wrote: post #51
davidguetta wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't matter in the end. 1/ Technology has always disrupted labor market so I mean that's not even a question this will happen. 2/ It's not that sad: I've worked in journaism and the reality is that 80% of news article are already most of the time a sad copypasta of a single main source of info such as reuters / AFP in france. Most of journalism is already noise. Maybe that will help recenter journalism on rea…

Unfortunately local news doesn’t find its place in Reuters/AFP news dispatched, and so losing local news will basically mean an epistemic black hole when it comes to the stuff physically closest to us.

They will fill the void with gossip.

Re: Google tests A.I. tool that is able to write news articles

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Post by davidguetta »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #46
davidguetta wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure but once again so what ? Change is part of life

We know that change, specifically in employment status in America, can and often does mean the difference between life or death. So yes it’s extremely important that employment changes not be thrust on people if we can at all avoid it as a society. You should care more about the plight of others.

I do ! But the point technology is not the one to blame, it's the current structure of society, in particular the one in the USA who throws people in poverty while there's so many wealth around.

I an in Europe and wealth is a lot more redistributed. AI will just amplify wealth accumulation but it's the policies who have to step up to counterbalance it with coporate taxes. Blaming AI is like blaming rain for being wet.

Re: Google tests A.I. tool that is able to write news articles

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Post by davidguetta »

paganel wrote: post #51
davidguetta wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't matter in the end. 1/ Technology has always disrupted labor market so I mean that's not even a question this will happen. 2/ It's not that sad: I've worked in journaism and the reality is that 80% of news article are already most of the time a sad copypasta of a single main source of info such as reuters / AFP in france. Most of journalism is already noise. Maybe that will help recenter journalism on rea…

Unfortunately local news doesn’t find its place in Reuters/AFP news dispatched, and so losing local news will basically mean an epistemic black hole when it comes to the stuff physically closest to us.

Or it's the opposite: local press will be the only real jobs left, and it's probably for the better. Who REALLY needs to know what's happening in bengladesh right now if you live in europe ?

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Post by Nasrudith »

notatoad wrote: post #120
JimtheCoder wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" it's just a selectively-applied welfare program, disproportionately provided to the people with the best connections. putting a stop to those sorts of "jobs" is not a bad thing." As long as you have somewhere else to put them...or else they will go on another type of welfare program where they don't have to do any work. That is the issue here...

Why is a fairly-distributed welfare program worse than an unfairly-distributed one?

Because it is unfair in their favor and thus motivated reasoning springs forth.

Re: Google tests A.I. tool that is able to write news articles

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Post by Nasrudith »

mc32 wrote: post #115
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #7

I’d love to hear somebody try to explain how this won’t negatively impact the labor market for journalists. My guess is that the argument will be that the “tools will simply help augment rather than replace the writer.” We know, however, that some small segment of implementations will actually in fact, cause someone to be fired or replaced, and things will get slightly worse for the consumer. An alternative explanati…

A problem with automation is that there is no pushback against the narrative. Bias will be a dial in either direction without fussy journalists daring to question the received narrative.

There was significant pushback against narratives beyond reporters getting pissed at prompts to interupt this story from Iraq for Britney Spears release from prison? That is news to me, no pun intendes. Pushback seems more the domain of the audience than the writers.

Re: Google tests A.I. tool that is able to write news articles

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

davidguetta wrote: post #134
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We know that change, specifically in employment status in America, can and often does mean the difference between life or death. So yes it’s extremely important that employment changes not be thrust on people if we can at all avoid it as a society. You should care more about the plight of others.

I do ! But the point technology is not the one to blame, it's the current structure of society, in particular the one in the USA who throws people in poverty while there's so many wealth around. I an in Europe and wealth is a lot more redistributed. AI will just amplify wealth accumulation but it's the policies who have to step up to counterbalance it with coporate taxes. Blaming AI is like blaming rain for being wet…

To clarify, I'm simply saying lets not accelerate the process of eliminating jobs

The fact that "AI" makes that a shibboleth is correlated, but by no means is AI the only process for which that happens

It just so happens that's the current trajectory and is expected to impact the labor market that to an extent that has been unseen since the industrial revolution - with billions more employees

Re: Google tests A.I. tool that is able to write news articles

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Post by anigbrowl »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #124
anigbrowl wrote: post #110

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You are assuming your interactions set the standard for everyone else. A story about how you helped someone is a nice anecdote, but it's not a good basis for extrapolation as you've been doing. I help people too, it does not follow that everyone can or should do things the way I do. The specifically half-baked thing is the idea that by doing something for yourself you're stealing someone else's labor opportunity. I b…

> the idea that by doing something for yourself you're stealing someone else's labor opportunity This is the mindset of "rugged individualism" Which has nothing to offer society (in which you live) for a way to live. You are mortally bound to need and care for others. Choosing not to does not absolve you of the responsibility, it's simply lacking the character necessary to provide for your own care via supporting, fi…

You are mortally bound to need and care for others.

This is exactly what I meant when I said I don't care to join your church. I can see why you'd object to the sort of individualism that says 'I won't help others because people should take care of themselves.' However, you've now extended this to the idea that people who do practice various kinds of self-sufficiency should not be allowed to, but must be be in a position of needing others whether they want to or not.

This is an absurdity. Is a person who cuts their own hair to be forced to go to a barber or hairdresser? Should programmers have to obtain a permission slip before writing code? Should hardware stores refuse service to DIYers? Your values as stated deny anyone the possibility of self-sufficiency, solitude, or privacy.

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