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Borderline personality disorder: a spurious condition?

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Re: Borderline personality disorder: a spurious condition?

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Married to someone with BPD. I guess one can debate what to call her symptom group - but insinuating her challenges don't exist is beyond absurd.

After 25 years I could pretty well climb into her headspace. If I lived there, I don't think I could ever find my way out.

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My pet theory is that all personality disorders are essentially ingrained responses to conditioning which could adequately be described as CPTSD, roughly categorized into the different types based on the types of trauma complexes experienced and the learned responses to them.

Re: Borderline personality disorder: a spurious condition?

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My pet theory is that all personality disorders are essentially ingrained responses to conditioning which could adequately be described as CPTSD, roughly categorized into the different types based on the types of trauma complexes experienced and the learned responses to them.

The issue with personality disorders is whether something is a positive or negative is a subjective evaluation. Homosexuality was once considered a personality disorder.

We consider narcissism a personality disorder, but we also reward narcissistic tendencies when one's extreme ego matches reality. Is there a single "correct" personality that we should all strive towards?

Re: Borderline personality disorder: a spurious condition?

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Married to someone with BPD. I guess one can debate what to call her symptom group - but insinuating her challenges don't exist is beyond absurd. After 25 years I could pretty well climb into her headspace. If I lived there, I don't think I could ever find my way out.

Say a bit more about the headspace

Re: Borderline personality disorder: a spurious condition?

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This is a BS article that's basically a clinician's pet peeves and grievances.

I know three close people with a BPD diagnosis. They had both a similar constellation of personality traits and all three were first medicated with antidepressants to no avail (a common trait in BPD is that it is easy to confuse for major depression). They took BPD-specific drugs and after a few trials and errors their quality of life increased _tremendously_, and there is evidence that BPD and associated personality traits are highly inheritable.

It is completely possible that a combination of adequate diet, exercise and sleep and lifestyle changes may take away these symptoms as they may possibly manifest the weird ways in which our minds and bodies react to the difficulties of modern life. But for most people that's just an option.

People may debate the minutiae of the biological underpinnings and the quantification of certain classes of symptoms. But that doesn't change that I've seen people who had a monthly episode of behaving like complete trash who totally changed their lives after taking lithium or other medication.

Re: Borderline personality disorder: a spurious condition?

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My pet theory is that all personality disorders are essentially ingrained responses to conditioning which could adequately be described as CPTSD, roughly categorized into the different types based on the types of trauma complexes experienced and the learned responses to them.

The issue with personality disorders is whether something is a positive or negative is a subjective evaluation. Homosexuality was once considered a personality disorder. We consider narcissism a personality disorder, but we also reward narcissistic tendencies when one's extreme ego matches reality. Is there a single "correct" personality that we should all strive towards?

I believe your question is synonymous with "is there any 'correct' response to trauma?" which is equally hard to answer.

Your point about which behaviors are considered disorders (e.g. homosexuality) is also well-taken. I am primarily basing my take on DSM-5's definitions.

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My pet theory is that all personality disorders are essentially ingrained responses to conditioning which could adequately be described as CPTSD, roughly categorized into the different types based on the types of trauma complexes experienced and the learned responses to them.

The issue with personality disorders is whether something is a positive or negative is a subjective evaluation. Homosexuality was once considered a personality disorder. We consider narcissism a personality disorder, but we also reward narcissistic tendencies when one's extreme ego matches reality. Is there a single "correct" personality that we should all strive towards?

> Is there a single "correct" personality that we should all strive towards?

Functional

Re: Borderline personality disorder: a spurious condition?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue with personality disorders is whether something is a positive or negative is a subjective evaluation. Homosexuality was once considered a personality disorder. We consider narcissism a personality disorder, but we also reward narcissistic tendencies when one's extreme ego matches reality. Is there a single "correct" personality that we should all strive towards?

> Is there a single "correct" personality that we should all strive towards? Functional

Defined very narrowly by what "functions" are expected of you. Which is of course conditioned on social expectations vis a vis (subjective) value systems which may or may not align to some notion of "correctness", even in broadly utilitarian terms.

Re: Borderline personality disorder: a spurious condition?

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My pet theory is that all personality disorders are essentially ingrained responses to conditioning which could adequately be described as CPTSD, roughly categorized into the different types based on the types of trauma complexes experienced and the learned responses to them.

My BPD diagnosis was replaced with a combination of ADHD and CPTSD. You may be on to something.
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