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#22Then there is this: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66256101 >in fact I'm very pessimistic about achieving even 2C In the US, the GOP refused to do anything and held the US hostage so they could cash in by taking bribes from the fossil fuel industry. The other party was too afraid to stand up to the GOP and fossil fuel industry, so nothing at all was done except talk. All the hot air from the pols taking…
Like the boiled frog, perhaps we have not even realized that we are already cooked/doomed.
I don't know, I feel like it's already pretty obvious that we're "cooked/doomed", with some caveats:
1. Even in the worst case I haven't seen any level-headed scientists argue that the Earth will be uninhabitable a la Venus. We'll get a hotter planner, sea levels will rise considerably inundating coastal areas, the current anthropocene extinction event will accelerate, storms will be a lot more intense, etc. Obviously a major set of problems, but I think it's important to be specific about what those problems will be as opposed to "we'll all be dead".
2. Whenever someone even remotely argues that we'll be able to stick to some reasonable emissions targets I like to show this graph, https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions#global-co2-emission.... That is, it's good news that global emissions have largely stabilized over the past decade, but we're still pumping out over 35 billion tons of carbon every year. We need to find a way, somehow, to bring that to near 0, and while tech may get us there eventually I don't see that happening in my lifetime (I'm middle aged).
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I've been on this site for years and just created an account for the first time to ask if you will please consider that the entire body of climate scientists and climate experts and all known empirical evidence disagrees with your one possible explanation, the "ethical skeptic."
If you would like to learn more, here are some reliable resources that will explain how climate change has been working, and how it will continue to work.
https://www.britannica.com/science/climate-change
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/...
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#25The faster humans can get off the planet the better the earth will become.
I don't mind all the climate change talk. But I do mind the symptoms curing. The best people can come up with are fucking electrical cars and artificial meat. Because we too many fucking people to serve natural foods.
What the fuuuck is wrong with us?
I might sound pessimistic but I don't have any faith in humanity as for saving the world. Absolutely none.
Very few are willing to sacrifice what it really takes to adjust. And I get that. It would probably mean we needed to kill a few billion in the west, india and far east. Who wants to join that lottery?
No way.
I want my car, my fairly big house, two kids, my fridge and my flights out when it's cold.
Let it burn for all I care. I hope it will. Because deep inside i know the earth will prevail. Its just a matter of how many humans it will take along with it.
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#26Then there is this: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66256101 >in fact I'm very pessimistic about achieving even 2C In the US, the GOP refused to do anything and held the US hostage so they could cash in by taking bribes from the fossil fuel industry. The other party was too afraid to stand up to the GOP and fossil fuel industry, so nothing at all was done except talk. All the hot air from the pols taking…
US carbon emissions peaked in 2000 and have been falling since, even without a per capita adjustment: https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/carb...
Different politics in the US might have made some difference on the margin in lowering them more, but it's not really the main issue.
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#28Then there is this: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66256101 >in fact I'm very pessimistic about achieving even 2C In the US, the GOP refused to do anything and held the US hostage so they could cash in by taking bribes from the fossil fuel industry. The other party was too afraid to stand up to the GOP and fossil fuel industry, so nothing at all was done except talk. All the hot air from the pols taking…
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This is the second link to the "ethical skeptic" in this thread.
I agree with you, sharing something like this suggests that you both really do still have a lot to discover about climate change. Here are some reliable resources to help:
https://www.britannica.com/science/climate-change
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/...
Re: There’s a heatwave in the sea and scientists are worried
#30Then there is this: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66256101 >in fact I'm very pessimistic about achieving even 2C In the US, the GOP refused to do anything and held the US hostage so they could cash in by taking bribes from the fossil fuel industry. The other party was too afraid to stand up to the GOP and fossil fuel industry, so nothing at all was done except talk. All the hot air from the pols taking…
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