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Stay or Leave: Manager Admitted I am on PIP because quota

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Re: Stay or Leave: Manager Admitted I am on PIP because quota

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Post by hef19898 »

eschneider wrote: post #5

Ugh. The OP asks that question like they have a choice. They're walking dead. OP is gonna be out at the end of the PIP, so he should start looking for another job. I mean, stay until they find something new or b) get the boot, but they're dead there.

The nice thing so, since it is a quota PIP, is that seeing said PIP through is now a goal of the direct manager and the manager's manager. That can actually lead to a situation, in which the employees interest of a generous package is actually in line with managements', getting the employee put to fulfill a quota and personal goals. If company money has to be spent to do so, then be it.

That being said, these situations suck. Ask me how I know.

Re: Stay or Leave: Manager Admitted I am on PIP because quota

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Post by jrd259 »

The company that employs me has a stack ranking system that determines raises, but does not mandate PIP even for the lowest-ranked, unless they genuinely are not meeting expectations. I would advocate looking for a more employee-friendly employer. Any firm with this kind of policy most likely has other awful policies

Re: Stay or Leave: Manager Admitted I am on PIP because quota

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Post by fourseventy »

ryanwaggoner wrote: post #12
fourseventy wrote: post #10

PIP...? Define your acronyms on first use. Its so annoying

Everyone on blind knows what PIP means

Well the only pip I know is the python package manager and this story is posted on HN, so a lot of people are going to be in the same boat

Re: Stay or Leave: Manager Admitted I am on PIP because quota

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Post by yanslookup »

Doesn't pass the smell test. Google managers should be sharing the areas that OP is underperforming with examples. It will be clear. There is no "My manager told me to arbitrarily pick someone" with no reason given.

My best guess is this person is underperforming and the manager is too focused on head count preservation to notice an underperformance issue. To them, their manager is forcing them in to this but not for the reasons they are sharing.

Either way, that's a bad manager, likely should be making plans to leave.

Re: Stay or Leave: Manager Admitted I am on PIP because quota

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Post by nine_zeros »

When engineers complain about poor management practices in the tech industry, and it sounds unbelievable, this post should be an example of how bad things are in this industry.

For engineers, the only way to survive is play the game but stop caring about the company because they don't care about you.

Re: Stay or Leave: Manager Admitted I am on PIP because quota

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Post by [deleted] »

yanslookup wrote: post #17

Doesn't pass the smell test. Google managers should be sharing the areas that OP is underperforming with examples. It will be clear. There is no "My manager told me to arbitrarily pick someone" with no reason given. My best guess is this person is underperforming and the manager is too focused on head count preservation to notice an underperformance issue. To them, their manager is forcing them in to this but not for…

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Re: Stay or Leave: Manager Admitted I am on PIP because quota

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Post by fourseventy »

This guys boss picked him to be on the performance improvement plan. Even if his boss was forced to pick someone because of quota, the fact that he was picked must mean he was at the bottom of the pack in terms of performance. My advice would be to be humble enough to admit that the performance can be improved and take ownership of that fact and not make excuses like " my boss put me on notice because of a quota, i guess i should quit"
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