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Exxon bets carbon will be the new oil

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Re: Exxon bets carbon will be the new oil

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> Exxon’s vision is that eventually these pipelines will ferry CO2 captured from industrial point sources like cement and steel plants, and potentially from natural gas power plants, and transport it to underground rock formations or old oil wells where it could be buried (Denbury also owns a number of large sites for carbon sequestration). Color me skeptical. The article offers no supporting evidence that this is Ex…

It sounds more like an excuse to continue to output oil while doing absolutely nothing to stop the further degradation of out environment.

Funny but Exxon could become a ‘net zero’ company without fundamentally changing its business.

You see, companies get charged for the carbon they emit, not the carbon that their customers emit.

An oil refinery is an ideal place to implement carbon capture because it is a concentrated source of emissions and is already using technology such as amine strippers that one would use for carbon capture. Refineries burn a lot of fuel to produce hydrogen and process heat and those could be replaced with green hydrogen or pink hydrogen, heat could be derived from resistive heating, nuclear HTGR or adiabatic compression in turbines. What CO2 is produced can be pumped underground into saline aquifers.

The Biden administration is interested in subsidizing such development in the ‘Refinery Row” of the U.S. South and it is something they are equipped to succeed at because they have the geology, industrial concentration, skills and attitude to pull it off.

A net-zero Exxon would still have to decarbonize production and that is harder than the refinery but they could buy some offsets (or themselves implement with direct carbon capture, BECCS, etc.) It would be a lot cheaper than buying offsets for their customers but who knows they might sell those too.

Re: Exxon bets carbon will be the new oil

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> Exxon’s vision is that eventually these pipelines will ferry CO2 captured from industrial point sources like cement and steel plants, and potentially from natural gas power plants, and transport it to underground rock formations or old oil wells where it could be buried (Denbury also owns a number of large sites for carbon sequestration). Color me skeptical. The article offers no supporting evidence that this is Ex…

It looks like Exxon is pivoting to be an energy provider & owner of piping infrastructure, with petroleum products being a product line. The CO2 pipelines seem similar in infrastructure to oil pipelines. CO2 looks like a great opportunity for companies like Exxon to further consolidate the energy markets & gain entry into the heavily subsidized Carbon Capture market. They will gain tax funded & printed revenue as well as more pipeline infrastructure.

On the PR front, Exxon is now a "Green Company" who is "saving the world from Climate Change". Their ESG score will rise which will attract additional investment in public markets.

I wonder how many Carbon Offset credits this will yield them. Will this make Exxon a "Carbon Neutral Company"? An interesting mix of finance justified by environmentalism & a case example of what happens when environmentalism is reduced to a single metric. Well played Exxon, well played...

Re: Exxon bets carbon will be the new oil

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oil made those companies rich, but there is no proof that the vision of a rich company will have any value or offer an worthy insight into the future.

important reminder: CO2 is an oxide and requires A LOT OF ENERGY to break down.

so unless they can genetically engineer some kind of moss like in Robinson climate trilogy, it's highly doubtful they will achieve anything worthwhile

Re: Exxon bets carbon will be the new oil

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“ExxonMobil… [acquired]… a smaller Texas oil and gas company with the U.S.’s largest network of pipelines designed to carry carbon dioxide.”

There was a great episode of the Volts podcast, about a startup aiming to make synthetic shipping fuel (methanol), where waste CO2 was one of the main inputs.

Some good discussion of where they sourced their CO2, and the practicalities of CO2 distribution.

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/volts/id1548554104?i=1...

Re: Exxon bets carbon will be the new oil

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They're going to charge us twice. Once for emitting it, second time for sequestering it. The fight for subsidies up here in Canada is insane. The electricity generated is already more expensive then renewables, and soon they can pad their margins with novelty projects that may or may not pan out, while telling us in their annual reports how great they are.
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