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Re: FTC warns board game content creators, publishers to disclose relationships

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Post by randall »

SeanLuke wrote: post #66

This is also a major problem in the music synthesizer industry, and Benn Jordan (aka The FlashBulb, but also a major synthesizer reviewer) put out an extraordinary video detailing all the financial issues and incentives involved in being an influencer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Q7usuG2Cw I think Benn is above reproach ethically here -- see how much Behringer dislike him -- but I also think he is wrong. The fu…

Michelin only does positive reviews.

If you trust the source of your information because they've been credible in the past, the ecosystem of reviewers matters less than an individual's relationship with a specific publication (or influencer, etc.)

On an individual reviewer basis, it's all about trust. Drive by consumption does not do well in this model.

Re: FTC warns board game content creators, publishers to disclose relationships

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Post by sam345 »

The FTC has too much time on their hands. they're losing left right and center and are risking irrelevancy. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-21/microsoft.... They need to focus on the basics of what their agency is about. In addition there are other enforcement mechanisms including state regulation, private lawsuits, marketplace. We don't need the centralized control of the feds involved in everything.

Re: FTC warns board game content creators, publishers to disclose relationships

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Post by SeanLuke »

randall wrote: post #91
SeanLuke wrote: post #66

This is also a major problem in the music synthesizer industry, and Benn Jordan (aka The FlashBulb, but also a major synthesizer reviewer) put out an extraordinary video detailing all the financial issues and incentives involved in being an influencer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Q7usuG2Cw I think Benn is above reproach ethically here -- see how much Behringer dislike him -- but I also think he is wrong. The fu…

Michelin only does positive reviews. If you trust the source of your information because they've been credible in the past, the ecosystem of reviewers matters less than an individual's relationship with a specific publication (or influencer, etc.) On an individual reviewer basis, it's all about trust. Drive by consumption does not do well in this model.

Michelin is almost unique. If a restaurant is not reviewed, a certain class of people do not go there. This is a rather different situation.

As to ``only positive reviews'': restaurants have been known to shutter when they lose a star.

Re: FTC warns board game content creators, publishers to disclose relationships

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Post by kriro »

n2dasun wrote: post #90
kriro wrote: post #74

I'm a pretty big board gamer with a collection somewhere north of 300 games and I feel by and large the influencer community isn't as bad as in other niches. Most people will state very clearly if they got a review copy or have other relations (sometimes they'll review a game from a publisher were they are also publishing a game soon etc.). Mostly, the good creators are still people who like board games and there's n…

I'm a fellow board gaming zealot and now I'm wondering which channel you're talking about

I think if you search for youtube + (sound of the animal that gave the name to python's "typing"...if it walks like a...) a channelname starting with said sound and ending in "ope" should come up as one of the top channels along with many videos about a certain bag building game named after a city.

Sorry for being so cryptic :D

Re: FTC warns board game content creators, publishers to disclose relationships

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

SeanLuke wrote: post #66

This is also a major problem in the music synthesizer industry, and Benn Jordan (aka The FlashBulb, but also a major synthesizer reviewer) put out an extraordinary video detailing all the financial issues and incentives involved in being an influencer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Q7usuG2Cw I think Benn is above reproach ethically here -- see how much Behringer dislike him -- but I also think he is wrong. The fu…

I didn’t know Benn was making content like this. I’ve known of him (also a fan of his music) from back in the day - from when he was active and uploading his own music on a certain now defunct well known music tracker. Great video with a lot of insights

Re: FTC warns board game content creators, publishers to disclose relationships

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Post by dragonwriter »

dragonwriter wrote: post #72
robobro wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of creative people smoke, drink, and engage in other vices. I'm not confident that any significant number of cases that people smoke in media is due to funding from big tobacco. When I would light up on stage and drink some beer during house shows, as a musician, I know I wasn't getting any funding for it. Do you have any articles about big tobacco paying authors, screenwriters, game designers, etc to include…

> I'm not confident that any significant number of cases that people smoke in media is due to funding from big tobacco. I’m fairly confident that much of it is, that spending on it is systematically not properly disclosed to the FTC, and that approximately 100% of the cases outside a documentary or newd cobtext involving a recognizable brand are paid (in cash or otherwise) product placement, the last bit the same as…

“newd” -> “news”, wasn’t aiming for a portmanteau of “nude” and “lewd”.

Re: FTC warns board game content creators, publishers to disclose relationships

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Post by JohnFen »

SeanLuke wrote: post #66

This is also a major problem in the music synthesizer industry, and Benn Jordan (aka The FlashBulb, but also a major synthesizer reviewer) put out an extraordinary video detailing all the financial issues and incentives involved in being an influencer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Q7usuG2Cw I think Benn is above reproach ethically here -- see how much Behringer dislike him -- but I also think he is wrong. The fu…

> Influencers think they get around this ethical conundrum by only reviewing stuff they like and refusing to post negative reviews.

Any time I see an source that is only producing positive reviews, I know for a fact that I can't trust what that source has to say.

Re: FTC warns board game content creators, publishers to disclose relationships

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Post by Paul-Craft »

teej wrote: post #19
productizeme93 wrote: post #2

> The FTC says disclosures should be kept simple, such as “This is an ad for BRAND”, and should be prominent on each piece of media which contains that product. Doesn't apply to movies, TV shows, and music videos right? Every once in awhile I see the 4th wall broken to make light of it being sponsored product placement, but it doesn't happen enough that I suspect the same sort of rules don't apply. I actually think i…

Classic HN “what about” that’s completely wrong and voted to the top.

That sounds like a shallow dismissal to me. We got rules against that around here, bud.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: FTC warns board game content creators, publishers to disclose relationships

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Post by Paul-Craft »

TillE wrote: post #81
k_roy wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's be fair though, that actually happening in movies has dropped dramatically. So many people I know vape now, and there is basically no way you can make vaping look cool onscreen

The only reason people think smoking "looks cool" is because of decades of aggressive advertising from cigarette companies, which seeped into the culture.

Decades? Try a century: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torches_of_Freedom

Re: FTC warns board game content creators, publishers to disclose relationships

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Post by jareklupinski »

SeanLuke wrote: post #66

This is also a major problem in the music synthesizer industry, and Benn Jordan (aka The FlashBulb, but also a major synthesizer reviewer) put out an extraordinary video detailing all the financial issues and incentives involved in being an influencer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Q7usuG2Cw I think Benn is above reproach ethically here -- see how much Behringer dislike him -- but I also think he is wrong. The fu…

I've started down a new hobby that requires a specific and somewhat pricey bit of kit, and can see this while trying to make an informed choice between different models from different manufacturers of this kit

The closest some reviewers get to outright panning something is making a pros/cons list comparing a given model against an inferior model from a different manufacturer as if they were in the same class as the sponsored model (the other manufacturer usually has a more expensive model available that would compare more favorably, given the chance)

also, you can tell when a bit of kit came with a list of talking points in the box, and when a review i'm watching makes the same talking points as the others i've seen, that manufacturer has _less_ merit in my mind (the least their marketing team can do is personalize the talking points they send out...)

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