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White House Secures Commitments from Leading AI Companies to Manage AI Risks

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Re: White House Secures Commitments from Leading AI Companies to Manage AI Risks

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I feel like this is one of those things that belongs in those news clips you see at the beginning of a dystopian or post-apocalyptic sci-fi film. It's just vague PR that won't actually do anything of substance.

Peace in our time is guaranteed. Neville Chamberlain would be proud

Re: White House Secures Commitments from Leading AI Companies to Manage AI Risks

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you also need to draw a line between different types of danger: An actual AGI, that can think and has it's own motives and initiative is an entirely different danger to GPT-4, -5 etc which cannot. Those might post a danger in terms of fake news, or worker displacement, but they're just social issues. No rate improvement in chat GPT will make it "decide to kill all the humans" etc.

Every time I hear how artificial intelligence with its "own motives" etc. are dangerous, I wonder how it's different from just dealing with people and animals. Or to put it another way, I can't see how artificial intelligence could be any more dangerous than intelligence as we already know and have them.

I think that’s the problem isn’t it? Intelligence has proven to be exceptionally dangerous!

Re: White House Secures Commitments from Leading AI Companies to Manage AI Risks

#16
Team America: World Police (2004)

Lisa: Promise me you'll never die.

Gary Johnston: You know I can't promise that.

Lisa: If you did that, I would make love to you right now

Gary Johnston: I promise I'll never die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aplSQGHPmvI

Lisa Secures Commitments from Gary to Never Die.

Re: White House Secures Commitments from Leading AI Companies to Manage AI Risks

#18
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you also need to draw a line between different types of danger: An actual AGI, that can think and has it's own motives and initiative is an entirely different danger to GPT-4, -5 etc which cannot. Those might post a danger in terms of fake news, or worker displacement, but they're just social issues. No rate improvement in chat GPT will make it "decide to kill all the humans" etc.

I mean if you wire the output of GPT-x to a nuclear reactor it can cause all kinds of danger. The thing that keeps us safe from computers is generally we don't let them have access to anything dangerous and when we do theres typically an evaluation of what can go wrong and how we'll prevent the computer from doing that (often in the other direction, we only program the computer to do X in Y situations). But sometimes…

If (and it's a huge if that we are no where near) we created a super intelligent, general ai, how would you keep it from accessing things it shouldn't? It would be smarter than the world's best hacking team and work 24/7. That's sort of the deus ex machina of AI...

Re: White House Secures Commitments from Leading AI Companies to Manage AI Risks

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you also need to draw a line between different types of danger: An actual AGI, that can think and has it's own motives and initiative is an entirely different danger to GPT-4, -5 etc which cannot. Those might post a danger in terms of fake news, or worker displacement, but they're just social issues. No rate improvement in chat GPT will make it "decide to kill all the humans" etc.

Every time I hear how artificial intelligence with its "own motives" etc. are dangerous, I wonder how it's different from just dealing with people and animals. Or to put it another way, I can't see how artificial intelligence could be any more dangerous than intelligence as we already know and have them.

I don't want to sound dismissive but... Well yeah.

We already know humans are dangerous. And that is humans who are conditioned to be social, and who have empathy and who rely on other humans for all sorts of things. Plus with fear of a legal system punishing them.

Now imagine a human like intelligence without empathy, that is not conditioned from childhood to be social, and that is inherently threatened by us and not reliant on us. Would you want that guy living next door?

Oh and it's 100x smarter than you.

I think all this is 100 years away, but that's the theory. Skynet doesn't have a subconscious telling it not to murder it's parents...

Re: White House Secures Commitments from Leading AI Companies to Manage AI Risks

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This strikes me as the best outcome as long as it stops here. This lets the White House move on from the nonsense AI x-risk discussion without being attacked for not doing anything about it, and also doesn't let the companies use fake x-risk to kill off open source models.
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