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Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by matthewfelgate »

ghusto wrote: post #18
matthewfelgate wrote: post #16

Imagine putting the Russian flag for the Ukrainian language for an idea of how Chinese people feel about Taiwan being a country. Whilst I understand you didn't mean to start a political debate, you have made a political choice by using the Taiwan so it's unfair to blame others for "bringing politics into it" just because you don't have understanding on the subject. > "No one can deny that it [Taiwan] owns a flag." 1…

> Imagine putting the Russian flag for the Ukrainian language for an idea of how Chinese people feel about this topic. Or rather, how Ukraine's would feel, doesn't it make more sense that way around? > You've made a political choice by using the Taiwan flag in the first place so don't blame others for "bringing politics into it" just because you don't have understanding on the subject. There's a country called Taiwan…

>Or rather, how Ukraine's would feel, doesn't it make more sense that way around?

That's my point.

You think there is no politics between China and Taiwan?

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by ghusto »

flir wrote: post #6
WhatDFHere wrote: post #2

It's sad when politics enters the community in git. Ugh.

Everything's politics, as this shows. You can't avoid it.

I don't agree. If I create a repo where a country list and their corresponding flags are needed for the application, I'll grab that from somewhere (maybe Wikipedia, or another repo?). If someone else comes in and says "hey that's not a country", that's where the politics is, not in my need for a country list.

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by ghusto »

matthewfelgate wrote: post #21
ghusto wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Imagine putting the Russian flag for the Ukrainian language for an idea of how Chinese people feel about this topic. Or rather, how Ukraine's would feel, doesn't it make more sense that way around? > You've made a political choice by using the Taiwan flag in the first place so don't blame others for "bringing politics into it" just because you don't have understanding on the subject. There's a country called Taiwan…

>Or rather, how Ukraine's would feel, doesn't it make more sense that way around? That's my point. You think there is no politics between China and Taiwan?

Sure, I'm vaguely aware of it. I just don't think the developer should be forced to care in a PR.

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by matthewfelgate »

ghusto wrote: post #23
matthewfelgate wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Or rather, how Ukraine's would feel, doesn't it make more sense that way around? That's my point. You think there is no politics between China and Taiwan?

Sure, I'm vaguely aware of it. I just don't think the developer should be forced to care in a PR.

Imagine the repo had the Nazi flag for USA; Would it be political to want to correct that?

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by glogla »

krick wrote: post #7
WhatDFHere wrote: post #2

It's sad when politics enters the community in git. Ugh.

I was annoyed when composer (PHP package manager) output, along with a lot of other stuff got clogged by colorful "Stand with Ukraine" messages (which, ironically, turns out to be orange in my terminal, instead of yellow). Now all this seems pretty mundane, though. Software is written by humans, after all, so all worst human behaviors will be projected onto it as well.

What kind of person do you have to be, to think "I stand with Ukraine" message is "worst human behavior"?

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by davidguetta »

matthewfelgate wrote: post #16

Imagine putting the Russian flag for the Ukrainian language for an idea of how Chinese people feel about Taiwan being a country. Whilst I understand you didn't mean to start a political debate, you have made a political choice by using the Taiwan so it's unfair to blame others for "bringing politics into it" just because you don't have understanding on the subject. > "No one can deny that it [Taiwan] owns a flag." 1…

To be fair he explained that it's also part of the ISO language

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by jfernandezr »

Not talking about politics, here, but a flag usually denotes a country or region, not a language.

You should use a flag when you're referring to a country or region, for example when you have an e-commerce website and are just distributing in certain areas. But languages do not have flags associated and then should not be used in language selectors.

Check that the example in the GH thread has Spanish as one of their choices and has the Spanish flag. Spanish is talked in a lot of countries including Spain, but also Spain has 4 different official languages in its own state territory. So, there exists es_ES, es_MX, es_PE but also es_ES and ca_ES. What flag should we paint in each case?

I've seen this mistake soo many times...

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by [deleted] »

gattis wrote: post #15

Well, politicking is mostly a waste of time, but here we have a rare chance to dialog with someone brainwashed by a truly corrupt and malignant ruling party with absolute power, and show them what free-thinking is all about. Personally, I would have taken the shot. The whole point of opening up to trade with China was the hope that the exposure would have influence on their people and that democratic ideas would win…

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Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

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Post by _nalply »

jfernandezr wrote: post #28

Not talking about politics, here, but a flag usually denotes a country or region, not a language. You should use a flag when you're referring to a country or region, for example when you have an e-commerce website and are just distributing in certain areas. But languages do not have flags associated and then should not be used in language selectors. Check that the example in the GH thread has Spanish as one of their…

I agree. As a Swiss speaking German I find to see the flag of Germany a bit jarring, especially Germans tend act as if the language belongs to Germany.

So just use the language code for languages?

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