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Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

#11
Great response that flags correlate to regions too and not 1:1 country usage, so this would be an exception to the standard. Also that the iso standard is that for zh_tw, so using that standard is within spec. Also the comment that no flag is visually not aligned with other lines having flags. All logical and rational reasons not to omit unrelated to politics.

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

#12
post #4

I find it amazing how cool and collected the response was.

I'm also amazed that the Github profile of the OP was not newly created just for this purpose. Instead he looks like a legit developer... just obv a hardcore nationalist ...

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

#13

It's sad when politics enters the community in git. Ugh.

Country flags are inherently political. They are a symbol of a political entity. If you don't want politics in "git" (or in code in general), then don't put it in. That said, this particular issue should not have been turned into a state-politics issue. The element in question seems to be a language selection rather than a country selection, so the very first argument ("TaiWan flag should not be placed along with oth…

Not really. I mean, this obviously depends on what you consider political, but as the maintainer correctly noted a flag doesn't have to represent a country. I can have my own flag. Depending on my prominence, my flag can be showcased in Wikipedia and you can even include it into your CSS library. People may even recognize it. If it makes me a "political entity" is an open question, however.

But filing tickets demanding to remove something from a CSS library because it "isn't a real country" definitely is a political statement. Which, for me, is always very unwelcome, but quite mundane at this point.

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

#14
post #9

Imagine wasting time on cloning the repo, making a change, pushing it, creating a PR, all that time wasted because of hate. He could use that time to fix one of the 38 issues reported by other users...

> all that time wasted because of hate

Disagreement is not hate. I do not agree with the person who wants to get rid of the Taiwanese flag since as far as I'm concerned Taiwan is a country but I do not hate him for his request.

Please don't use the word hate for these purposes as all that does is downplay cases of real hate.

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

#15
Well, politicking is mostly a waste of time, but here we have a rare chance to dialog with someone brainwashed by a truly corrupt and malignant ruling party with absolute power, and show them what free-thinking is all about. Personally, I would have taken the shot. The whole point of opening up to trade with China was the hope that the exposure would have influence on their people and that democratic ideas would win out in the end. I don't think we should shy away from this kind of confrontation.

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

#16
Imagine putting the Russian flag for the Ukrainian language for an idea of how Chinese people feel about Taiwan being a country.

Whilst I understand you didn't mean to start a political debate, you have made a political choice by using the Taiwan so it's unfair to blame others for "bringing politics into it" just because you don't have understanding on the subject.

> "No one can deny that it [Taiwan] owns a flag."

1 Billion Chinese people would like a word with you.

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

#17
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Country flags are inherently political. They are a symbol of a political entity. If you don't want politics in "git" (or in code in general), then don't put it in. That said, this particular issue should not have been turned into a state-politics issue. The element in question seems to be a language selection rather than a country selection, so the very first argument ("TaiWan flag should not be placed along with oth…

Not really. I mean, this obviously depends on what you consider political, but as the maintainer correctly noted a flag doesn't have to represent a country. I can have my own flag. Depending on my prominence, my flag can be showcased in Wikipedia and you can even include it into your CSS library. People may even recognize it. If it makes me a "political entity" is an open question, however. But filing tickets demandi…

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Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

#18

Imagine putting the Russian flag for the Ukrainian language for an idea of how Chinese people feel about Taiwan being a country. Whilst I understand you didn't mean to start a political debate, you have made a political choice by using the Taiwan so it's unfair to blame others for "bringing politics into it" just because you don't have understanding on the subject. > "No one can deny that it [Taiwan] owns a flag." 1…

> Imagine putting the Russian flag for the Ukrainian language for an idea of how Chinese people feel about this topic.

Or rather, how Ukraine's would feel, doesn't it make more sense that way around?

> You've made a political choice by using the Taiwan flag in the first place so don't blame others for "bringing politics into it" just because you don't have understanding on the subject.

There's a country called Taiwan, it has a flag, it's flag was put next to the name of the country. Where's the politics?

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

#19
post #11

Great response that flags correlate to regions too and not 1:1 country usage, so this would be an exception to the standard. Also that the iso standard is that for zh_tw, so using that standard is within spec. Also the comment that no flag is visually not aligned with other lines having flags. All logical and rational reasons not to omit unrelated to politics.

I'm not sure the ISO standard specifies a flag though.

Re: Remove Taiwan flag – Taiwan is not a country

#20

It's sad when politics enters the community in git. Ugh.

Country flags are inherently political. They are a symbol of a political entity. If you don't want politics in "git" (or in code in general), then don't put it in. That said, this particular issue should not have been turned into a state-politics issue. The element in question seems to be a language selection rather than a country selection, so the very first argument ("TaiWan flag should not be placed along with oth…

> Country flags are inherently political

Not people focused on the purpose of the repo.

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