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So while C may be as lightweight as it can get, it's not really suitable for projects with more than 10k LOC. I believe John Carmack would have something to say about this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Tech_3
If you want to put forth the requirement that you and everyone else on your team must be as good as John Carmack, sure.
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Isn't the linux kernel more than 10k lines of code, too? And GIMP?
And numerous compilers and interpeters and other system-level software. The author might be talking about consumer-oriented software, but still saying that C isn't suitable for large codebases is very presumptuous . disingenuous was the wrong word
So while C may be as lightweight as it can get, it's not really suitable for projects with more than 10k LOC. I believe John Carmack would have something to say about this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Tech_3
MAKE QUAKE-C
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If you want to put forth the requirement that you and everyone else on your team must be as good as John Carmack, sure.
Do you honestly think everyone on the team that developed the id Tech 3 engine was as 'good as Carmack'? I don't think he wrote the whole engine by himself.
My point is, even having one Carmack level developer on a team is a bridge to far for most.
Yes, you can write huge projects using just C, but you honestly don't think most people would recommend it unless every little drop of performance was really that important or you had no other choice or you had a super guru with an amazing track record writing the software.
At the time Q3 was written (13 years ago), console games were still being written in assembly language.
I've been meaning to try Go for a while (the fast compile times alone intrigued me), but this type of post really just puts me off - if you're telling me that C isn't suitable for large projects, then that tells me you may not know C well enough to make that judgement.
So while C may be as lightweight as it can get, it's not really suitable for projects with more than 10k LOC. I believe John Carmack would have something to say about this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Tech_3
For that matter, libc is considerably more than 10 kLOC (on FreeBSD 9.0, it's about 140 kLOC), and it's hard to think of a more stereotypical block of C code than that.
I would say SQL or HTTP server or game or a word processor where you have to retain sizable chunks of data in memory for longer periods is a better example of big C project. And that's where lack of automatic memory management and data abstraction in C makes it hard.
So while C may be as lightweight as it can get, it's not really suitable for projects with more than 10k LOC. I believe John Carmack would have something to say about this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Tech_3
However, I did eventually spot Julia, which is totally awesome for my own personal higher level needs.
i'd love to see this
What? Google's Issue 9 is neither a C-like language nor a systems language.