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Re: Fly.io Postgres cluster down for 3 days, no word from them about it

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Post by aledalgrande »

q7xvh97o2pDhNrh wrote: post #34
aledalgrande wrote: post #9

Wondering if for small/bootstrapped projects there's any alternative people suggest? Fly has a nice UX and accessible prices, but it's unstable at best. I use the big clouds at work, but for personal they are $$$. Also I want to keep devops tending asymptotically to zero.

Maybe just pick up 3 chonky EC2 boxes, set up iptables on each of them, have each one run a containerized version of your code that gets built and deployed from CI every time you push to Github, slap an ALB in front of it all, and call it a day? And if you need state, then spin up a little RDS with your favorite SQL flavor of choice? The CI deploy script could even bake in little health-checks so you can do rolling d…

The system you describe is quite the monthly bill, off the top of my head.

Re: Fly.io Postgres cluster down for 3 days, no word from them about it

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Post by aledalgrande »

sho wrote: post #40
aledalgrande wrote: post #9

Wondering if for small/bootstrapped projects there's any alternative people suggest? Fly has a nice UX and accessible prices, but it's unstable at best. I use the big clouds at work, but for personal they are $$$. Also I want to keep devops tending asymptotically to zero.

Honestly these days I am leaning towards this approach: https://github.com/mrsked/mrsk/ It's all just docker.

Nah I don't wanna be responsible for running a control plane. I just wanna focus on the app, that's all.

Re: Fly.io Postgres cluster down for 3 days, no word from them about it

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Post by aledalgrande »

reustle wrote: post #19
aledalgrande wrote: post #9

Wondering if for small/bootstrapped projects there's any alternative people suggest? Fly has a nice UX and accessible prices, but it's unstable at best. I use the big clouds at work, but for personal they are $$$. Also I want to keep devops tending asymptotically to zero.

I’m quite happy with https://render.com after leaving Heroku

I'll give them a run thanks!

Re: Fly.io Postgres cluster down for 3 days, no word from them about it

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Post by [deleted] »

mrcwinn wrote: post #18
spiderice wrote: post #14

There is now a response to the support thread from Fly[1]: > Hi Folks, > Just wanted to provide some more details on what happened here, both with the thread and the host issue. > The radio silence in this thread wasn’t intentional, and I’m sorry if it seemed that way. While we check the forum regularly, sometimes topics get missed. Unfortunately this thread one slipped by us until today, when someone saw it and flag…

For what it’s worth, I left Fly because of this crap. At first my Fly machine web app had intermittent connection issues to a new production PG machine. Then my PG machine died. Hard. I lost all data. A restart didn’t work - it could not recover. I restored an older backup over at RDS and couldn’t be happier I left.

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Re: Fly.io Postgres cluster down for 3 days, no word from them about it

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Post by siquick »

We tried to migrate all our staging environments to Fly last year but it was the flakiest experience I’ve experienced on any PaaS. Pushing simple containers up would fail 70-80% of the time with no useful error messages and non existent support. It’s a weird company that seems great until you actually use them.

Re: Fly.io Postgres cluster down for 3 days, no word from them about it

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Post by pier25 »

mrcwinn wrote: post #18
spiderice wrote: post #14

There is now a response to the support thread from Fly[1]: > Hi Folks, > Just wanted to provide some more details on what happened here, both with the thread and the host issue. > The radio silence in this thread wasn’t intentional, and I’m sorry if it seemed that way. While we check the forum regularly, sometimes topics get missed. Unfortunately this thread one slipped by us until today, when someone saw it and flag…

For what it’s worth, I left Fly because of this crap. At first my Fly machine web app had intermittent connection issues to a new production PG machine. Then my PG machine died. Hard. I lost all data. A restart didn’t work - it could not recover. I restored an older backup over at RDS and couldn’t be happier I left.

So you didn't have a HA setup with multiple machines and volumes?

Re: Fly.io Postgres cluster down for 3 days, no word from them about it

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Post by rendaw »

pech0rin wrote: post #28

I really want to love Fly.io. It's super easy to get setup and use, but to be honest I don't think anyone should be building mission critical applications on their service. I ended up migrating everything over to AWS (which I reallllly didn't want to do) because: * Frequent machines not working, random outages, builds not working * Support wasn't responsive, didn't read my questions (kept asking same questions over a…

Half the critical info for using their services is buried in some thread in the forum (posted by an employee). How bad is their documentation pipeline that they can't with similar effort get that same info in the documentation? Requests to put stuff in the docs go ignored.

The answer to _any_ usage related forum question should be:

1. It's in the documentation (maybe I just added it)

2. If you're left with any confusion, let me know and I'll update the documentation to resolve it

Re: Fly.io Postgres cluster down for 3 days, no word from them about it

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

bongobingo1 wrote: post #21
Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish digitalocean offered decent pricing for spaces (s3). Unfortunately it starts at 5$, which is an enormous price for storing 70 small images, but s3 would greatly simplify my server management moving state entirely outside the server (managed database + managed object storage)

> price for storing 70 small images Do you have to use an object store in that case? Or does it have to be separate from whatever application instance?

I don't have to use an object store, but it makes the cost of setting up a server more expensive if I use the filesystem, if I delete the instance, the data is gone. A volume kinda offset this, but it's way less portable and accessible only by one instance at a time

The peace of mind of managed is nice, all I have to think about is running the app, without having to deal with making sure db and files don't get lost

Re: Fly.io Postgres cluster down for 3 days, no word from them about it

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

iampims wrote: post #26
Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish digitalocean offered decent pricing for spaces (s3). Unfortunately it starts at 5$, which is an enormous price for storing 70 small images, but s3 would greatly simplify my server management moving state entirely outside the server (managed database + managed object storage)

You could use Cloudflare R2, it's pretty cheap overall.

I did not realize they have an s3 compatible service
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