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Re: Become Ungoogleable

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Post by EMCymatics »

bachmeier wrote: post #105
Aurornis wrote: post #8

> Nobody really expects to be able to find anything of value in a Google search now This is a categorically false premise. The kind of statement that only makes sense when you're in a deep bubble and entirely removed from the average person's use of the internet. Deliberately removing yourself from Google is fine for the author who is more concerned about taking an ideological stance than they are about being discove…

> This is a categorically false premise. The kind of statement that only makes sense when you're in a deep bubble and entirely removed from the average person's use of the internet. I mean no harm by this comment, but I think you're the one living in a bubble. Do you watch high school students using the internet? Where do they go for information? Reddit is the first place they look. Then they look for a Discord serve…

Reddit is bad at indexing so they probably use google to find the proper reddit forum.

Re: Become Ungoogleable

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Post by evanchisholm »

bachmeier wrote: post #105
Aurornis wrote: post #8

> Nobody really expects to be able to find anything of value in a Google search now This is a categorically false premise. The kind of statement that only makes sense when you're in a deep bubble and entirely removed from the average person's use of the internet. Deliberately removing yourself from Google is fine for the author who is more concerned about taking an ideological stance than they are about being discove…

> This is a categorically false premise. The kind of statement that only makes sense when you're in a deep bubble and entirely removed from the average person's use of the internet. I mean no harm by this comment, but I think you're the one living in a bubble. Do you watch high school students using the internet? Where do they go for information? Reddit is the first place they look. Then they look for a Discord serve…

This is so untrue. Most high schoolers run a Google search for their queries first. Most of the time just looking for a Wikipedia page. Occasionally smart ones will Google and append "reddit" to the end of their search when looking for opinions but a lot of highschoolers barely know what reddit is. YouTube would probably be next up and then maybe TikTok. But Google is still 100% the first place to go.

Source: I'm a highschool student and spend a lot of my time with other highschool students.

Re: Become Ungoogleable

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Post by wolverine876 »

Aurornis wrote: post #8

> Nobody really expects to be able to find anything of value in a Google search now This is a categorically false premise. The kind of statement that only makes sense when you're in a deep bubble and entirely removed from the average person's use of the internet. Deliberately removing yourself from Google is fine for the author who is more concerned about taking an ideological stance than they are about being discove…

> categorically false

What does categorically false mean?

Re: Become Ungoogleable

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Post by silisili »

AlbertCory wrote: post #3

I thought the method was to change your name to something extremely common, like "Janet Brown." A variant is to take the name of some celebrity, so that all the search results are for him or her.

I'm AFAIK ungoogleable, in part because there is a C or D list actor who shares my name, as well as a successful business owner, and apparently a couple football prospects.

On the other hand, the business owner is in the tech space and apparently an early adopter, as he always seems to take the lastname and/or firstlast name, so it's not all roses.

Re: Become Ungoogleable

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Post by incompatible »

superkuh wrote: post #2

It's a fine idea. But what I'm taking away from this post is the link to the Google/Chromium web DRM prototype and summary ... yikes. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environ... >- The web page executing in a user's web browser >- A third party that can “attest” to the device a web browser is executing on, referred to as the attester >- The web developers server which can remotely verify attestati…

I can't even visualise how this would work in any meaningful way. You are going to have some software that "attests" that, say, the user is running an approved version of Chrome. But you couldn't just distribute such software everywhere, since I assume it would be trivial to extract any keys from it and then attest whatever you wanted. The site mentions "Google Play" as a possible attestor, so it would perhaps work on locked-down mobile devices, at best.

Re: Become Ungoogleable

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Post by aaron695 »

evanchisholm wrote: post #172
bachmeier wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a categorically false premise. The kind of statement that only makes sense when you're in a deep bubble and entirely removed from the average person's use of the internet. I mean no harm by this comment, but I think you're the one living in a bubble. Do you watch high school students using the internet? Where do they go for information? Reddit is the first place they look. Then they look for a Discord serve…

This is so untrue. Most high schoolers run a Google search for their queries first. Most of the time just looking for a Wikipedia page. Occasionally smart ones will Google and append "reddit" to the end of their search when looking for opinions but a lot of highschoolers barely know what reddit is. YouTube would probably be next up and then maybe TikTok. But Google is still 100% the first place to go. Source: I'm a h…

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Re: Become Ungoogleable

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Post by raincole »

bachmeier wrote: post #105
Aurornis wrote: post #8

> Nobody really expects to be able to find anything of value in a Google search now This is a categorically false premise. The kind of statement that only makes sense when you're in a deep bubble and entirely removed from the average person's use of the internet. Deliberately removing yourself from Google is fine for the author who is more concerned about taking an ideological stance than they are about being discove…

> This is a categorically false premise. The kind of statement that only makes sense when you're in a deep bubble and entirely removed from the average person's use of the internet. I mean no harm by this comment, but I think you're the one living in a bubble. Do you watch high school students using the internet? Where do they go for information? Reddit is the first place they look. Then they look for a Discord serve…

> Reddit is the first place they look.

And how the hell do they "look" Reddit? Don't tell me the high-schoolers actually prefer Reddit's search than Google? If it's true I'm deeply worried about humanity's future.

Re: Become Ungoogleable

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Post by naniwaduni »

all2 wrote: post #130
GoblinSlayer wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's tradition when a family has only daughters and the oldest daughter marries, her husband takes her family name.

Who's tradition? This sounds fascinating.

While I can't speak for what specific tradition GP might have been thinking of, but it seems like a special case of what happens in systems where typically a bride marries "into" a groom's family, with the occasional exception where a groom marries into the bride's family for e.g. inheritance purposes. This is globally quite common in cultures where inheritance is relevant with male preference.

Re: Become Ungoogleable

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Post by kccqzy »

deltarholamda wrote: post #78
distortedsignal wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure that I agree. My brother tried to set me up with a girl last week. She has a pretty uncommon name. Googled her. Found... a lot of stuff. I have a VERY common name. Think multiple (relatively) famous people (photographers, US Medal of Honor winner, enough lawyers to choke a court system for DECADES), but if you google my name and the city I live in (1,000,000+ people), my LinkedIn is like the second resul…

Okay, but now try "what's the best gaming laptop?" or something similar. This is the sort of query that, at one time, would unearth some nerd's web site alongside PCWorld or whatever. Now it's seven pages of nearly identical listicles, some of which are on bizarre domains like "DougsAutoBodyAndFlowerShop.com", and all of which are festooned with ads, also provided by Google.

That nerd's web site isn't going to be up to date compared with tech journalism behemoths.

Re: Become Ungoogleable

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Post by intelVISA »

xwdv wrote: post #26
shiftpgdn wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just Google, Cloudflare is working hard on it too.

Cloudflare works hard but Google works harder.

Honestly, credit to CF - for actual damage to the current internet they're pretty equal even if Google has had to work much harder for their share.
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