I’ve been on the waitlist to try this for close to 5 years and never once received an email. Now, it is available for everyone to try…so I just installed it. Looks nice enough, but it is too similar to Notion for my taste and since I don’t like using Notion I don’t think I would like using this. I’ll stick with Obsidian because I value the flexibility it gives me (running my own code, customizing everything, etc.)
Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative
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Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Operating systems should be providing spellcheck to textboxes everywhere anyway. Makes no sense every app rolling their own and not using my operating system dictionary with my own corrections. Extremely frustrating every Electron app just rolls their own rubbish spellcheck, or doesn't have it at all.
That's an interesting take on things. Would you want your operating system to provide a web browser, pdf viewer, and spreadsheet as well? To me it makes no sense that software does not interoperate very well. I think most of this is due to the historical evolution of computers and software. A spell checker used to take up an insane amount of memory, a browser is a competitive product, and interfaces for proper intera…
It's amazing how insanely slow OSes can be too install, even without providing some of these things. I feel like getting a new Debian docker image to apt update takes forever now compared to 1995.
Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative
#53I'm sorry to hijack the thread but as someone forced to use Notion as a team wiki, please improve the performance! I can't emphasize this enough. The Notion subreddit is filled with complaints: if that's not a wake up call to every single PM at Notion, I don't know what is. Stop shipping features until the perf is a joy to your users. It's mind-boggling to me that companies would prio anything over fixing perf outsid…
> Notion is the single biggest frustration of any workplace tool I've ever used in my entire software career and it all comes down to its performance. Even worse than JIRA, or MS Teams? That sounds horrible indeed.
Not in my experience. Notion is faster than Jira. But we don't have super massive wikis, hundreds of pages at most.
Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative
#54Painful to import things from Logseq or Obsidian. It imports one md at a time, and the 'zip' thing does not click me.
It seem to focus too much on individual collections and pages and investing time upfront thinking about how to organize and navigate.
Awesome replacement for some things I had in OneNote, thou. Like an easy personal wiki.
But logseq (and as a second choice obsidian) is taking my heart because the activation energy cost is really low to just start writing notes, the flow seems more natural.
It's really an alternative to notion and maybe onenote, but not to whom just want to write more freely and easily finding things later then reorganizing what it's still important with some plugins and keyboard shortcuts (auto/semiauto moving blocks from one md to another).
For instance, daily notes: I don't want to put a title. Just give me the current date, and ability to see previous days in a few keystrokes, some tags for the blocks I'm taking note, that will help me find the related blocks and pages later.
The P2P sync is what made me try the first place. It's working fine, nice!
I did a similar thing with logseq + syncthing, and all my notes are plain files. I can't find the format anytype is using. The local working folder just looks like a standard chrome/electron folder with everything inside. Unusable for my own backup purposes.
Nice to know about in general, ty!
Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative
#55I'm sorry to hijack the thread but as someone forced to use Notion as a team wiki, please improve the performance! I can't emphasize this enough. The Notion subreddit is filled with complaints: if that's not a wake up call to every single PM at Notion, I don't know what is. Stop shipping features until the perf is a joy to your users. It's mind-boggling to me that companies would prio anything over fixing perf outsid…
> Notion is the single biggest frustration of any workplace tool I've ever used in my entire software career and it all comes down to its performance. Even worse than JIRA, or MS Teams? That sounds horrible indeed.
Yes, worse but it depends on what type of page you're working in. If it's of medium complexity and up, it's worse (a few media elements, maybe a database, etc.)
If it's just text, it's faster than JIRA or Teams.
Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative
#56Everything about this smells like "we're going to say we're open-source and that you're always fully in control" and then you read the fine print and find out there's some way to rugpull or some other barrier that will screw the user.
At this stage, having seen so many of these things, I'm comfortable disbelieving them outright WITHOUT reading further.
Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the same. I was trying to find the "How to install the server" but here is no option. It just saves the data in their servers. There is too many wording about security and control, but only in their control.
Here is the link with the instructions https://tech.anytype.io/how-to/self-hosting
That's useless if the client also sends the same data to Any's node. You can't disable that for now:
Self-hosting only without a backup node is currently unavailable
The self-hosting-only feature is not released yet. If you don’t want to use Anytype node and instead use p2p sync between your devices, you can block Anytype network traffic (Anytype & Anytype Helper) via your firewall.
Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative
#58I'm sorry to hijack the thread but as someone forced to use Notion as a team wiki, please improve the performance! I can't emphasize this enough. The Notion subreddit is filled with complaints: if that's not a wake up call to every single PM at Notion, I don't know what is. Stop shipping features until the perf is a joy to your users. It's mind-boggling to me that companies would prio anything over fixing perf outsid…
They could try the WebKit strategy [1]; a strict policy against performance regression:
> We adhere to a simple directive for all work we do on WebKit: The way to make a program faster is to never let it get slower.
Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Operating systems should be providing spellcheck to textboxes everywhere anyway. Makes no sense every app rolling their own and not using my operating system dictionary with my own corrections. Extremely frustrating every Electron app just rolls their own rubbish spellcheck, or doesn't have it at all.
That's an interesting take on things. Would you want your operating system to provide a web browser, pdf viewer, and spreadsheet as well? To me it makes no sense that software does not interoperate very well. I think most of this is due to the historical evolution of computers and software. A spell checker used to take up an insane amount of memory, a browser is a competitive product, and interfaces for proper intera…
> web browser, pdf viewer, and spreadsheet as well?
Yes, yes, and no.
Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative
#60Very nice and well developed product. I've been using it for a while! Glad that it's public and has a mobile app now! I've been a heavy user of Notion, finally, there is a better and more secured alternative!