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Zoom fatigue unpacked

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Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

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the fatigue from video calls is a major reason why i prefer working in the office

Being back in the office has helped...but my company has satellite offices and teams (created before the satellites were established) scattered all over the region. I don't think any teams are complete in a single office. So we still have a lot of zooming.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#162

Of course, the elephant in the room is that people need to stop having so many meetings. Those of us who have been working remotely for a decade or more never had this problem - we use async communications, quick one-off calls when needed, and really never spent all our time in meetings. But when everyone moved to remote work a few years ago, this culture of meetings all day came up... and it still confuses me. It is…

Agreed it is the weirdest thing ever to me that people don't email anymore. Just send an email. In an email it's written down and I can search for it. In an email I can think at my own pace and respond without worrying about trampling others. In an email people can't ramble on and on and if they do you can just not read the email. And if it's work to be done, just make a ticket. The amount of meeting time waste baffl…

I agree. Email is productive communication. 99% of meetings are a huge waste of time.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t use email at work anymore because it is siloed to the original participants. Someone on the inside needs to know to forward the whole thread to anyone who needs the information after the fact. This info is lost forever when participants leave the company. With Slack I can search through conversations where the participants are long gone. It is not the end all be all of communication, but the auto-documentatio…

> I don’t use email at work anymore because it is siloed to the original participants. For many people that's a selling point. I practically beg my teammates to ask questions in the team slack channel instead of DMing me, but they never do. I think it's stage fright and wanting to reveal ignorance to as few people as possible amplified by various higher up people joining the channel. Also compounded by tons of people…

> I practically beg my teammates to ask questions in the team slack channel instead of DMing me, but they never do.

I would probably be one of them (although I'd be more likely to email you if that's an option).

If I have to ask my stupid question in public, I'm more likely to simply not ask it at all -- especially if management or people who are not on my immediate team are in the Slack channel.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#164

Of course, the elephant in the room is that people need to stop having so many meetings. Those of us who have been working remotely for a decade or more never had this problem - we use async communications, quick one-off calls when needed, and really never spent all our time in meetings. But when everyone moved to remote work a few years ago, this culture of meetings all day came up... and it still confuses me. It is…

Funny, just read an article on WSJ complaining how people take breaks during working time and then it is hard to schedule even more meetings on short notice ("is why so many managers hate hybrid work"): https://www.wsj.com/articles/work-office-coworkers-schedule-...

there are synchronized and non-synchronized tasks.

if its something where we need to synchronize with other team members, then schedule it ahead of time, or else let me know asap / hit my cell / etc.

One of the givens of remote work is that you have "synchronous hours" where the expectation is that you're within 5-15 min of your computer, and that you put status messages if you're away / out.

e.g. "OUT LUNCH" at 12:41pm means I can reasonably guess where you are (lunch) and roughly when you're going to be back (1-130ish).

non-synchronized or non-time-sensitive tasks can be done whenever so long as deadlines are met

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

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I think this is because some jobs translate better to remote than others. We have the trope in popular culture of a bunch of people at work, sitting in a meeting; where being face-to-face is the norm for most of the day.

This translates really poorly to full-time remote.

But there's a more sinister aspect: I've gotten a vibe from some "bosses" that they like big meetings because it makes them feel important. The "perpetual Zoom" helps feed that ego.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#166

Of course, the elephant in the room is that people need to stop having so many meetings. Those of us who have been working remotely for a decade or more never had this problem - we use async communications, quick one-off calls when needed, and really never spent all our time in meetings. But when everyone moved to remote work a few years ago, this culture of meetings all day came up... and it still confuses me. It is…

Agreed it is the weirdest thing ever to me that people don't email anymore. Just send an email. In an email it's written down and I can search for it. In an email I can think at my own pace and respond without worrying about trampling others. In an email people can't ramble on and on and if they do you can just not read the email. And if it's work to be done, just make a ticket. The amount of meeting time waste baffl…

Email means there's a paper trail. I've had conversations drastically change tone when the medium changed (eg, from text messages to phone call, or from video meeting to email thread).

Some people don't want to be held accountable for what they say.

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