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if you went camping on your own, you dont think you still need to recharge?
No, I do that to recharge.
So you could camp every day and never get tired?
Beyond introvert vs. extrovert
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You also adjust to a degree. With a family those longer moments can be as rare as a few times a year. I used to be alone for many hours or days almost daily when I was younger. But I’m doing fine. I really do enjoy the moments of solitude but I guess I don’t need them as much as I thought. With this “draining” metaphor you’d think every introvert parent is a mere husk
Recognizing that something takes effort doesn’t necessarily imply that the activity is not enjoyable or worth pursuing. I mean, I do see how someone might believe that just because one finds an activity draining they’d strive to avoid it at all costs. But that really doesn’t have to be the case.
True. Pretty much everything worth doing is "draining"
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#154The introvert/extrovert spectrum is an aspect of personality that seems to hold true across all cultures. Everywhere we've looked, there are some people that prefer to be by themselves more, and some people that prefer to be with other people more. The distribution of these people follow a standard bell curve. This is probably the single most well supported concept in the scientific literature on the topic of Persona…
...why is it crazy?
Pick any aspect of personality, and you'll be able to map it to two extremes.
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#155One dimension often missing from these (intro/extro-vert) discussions is the matter of what kind of people and what circumstance the interactions involve. Put me in a large group of people I have little in common with or with whom I have no interest in -- but am forced to socialize with -- and I'm used up in minutes. But with people I can somewhat identify with, and in a situation which offers something for me, and I…
Great point. I'm similar.
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#156The article doesn't mention it, but for me a good refinement of the idea is that being an introvert or extrovert is about whether social activity is something that costs energy or replenishes it. Not whether you enjoy it - in my own case I love talking and large crowds and so on, when I'm rested. When I'm tired, be quiet and stop looking at me.
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#157Introvert and extrovert is the most widely misunderstood thing I have seen at work and in personal life. This article also doesn’t do justice to the nuance that introverts find interactions with other “draining” … but it’s not necessary that they suck at it. I feel this way: having led teams of hundreds of people, I know I can have deep, meaningful and long conversations… but I don’t find them a source of joy. I enco…
I think it's even possible to take joy in something you find draining. For example, exercise is great, but it tires you out and you need to rest.
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#158I thought about this a lot too after being asked which one I was. My answer was neither and the other person labeled me as extrovert.
I think many introverts become more introverted as they label themself in that way. Often they feel uncomfortable in large and small groups, but with the label they have an excuse to avoid those situations as much as possible. Kind of like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Two sides is the most stable form of competition, it's why there are very few sports that have more than two teams. (Card games, maybe.) A few years ago I saw a great essay/blog post/paper/something that made this point really elegantly, about how conflicts seem to naturally resolve into two sides, but I haven't managed to find it again.
It's pretty standard game theory. If there are 3 teams, and one team starts to gain an advantage, the other two are highly incentivized to join forces to defeat the larger one. Unless you design systems to allow smaller teams/parties/groups to flourish, most competitions will devolve into two sides. In voting this would be things like ranked choice or approval voting, rather than single vote "first past the post".
The board game Diplomacy is the classic example of multiplayer competition, where there is explicit negotiation of alliances and the possibility of trust and betrayal at every turn.
P.S. Recent success with AI for Diplomacy at DeepMind:
https://www.deepmind.com/blog/ai-for-the-board-game-diplomac...
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