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ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Yes, spend $600 on an base iMac Mini then spend $800 on an TB SSD with $200 worth of NVME inside it because ... logic ??? Meanwhile a 12th-Gen NUC with 16GB RAM and 500GB SSD costs ~$240 on Amazon, and you can replace the internal RAM and SSD with whatever size and models you want.

A 1 TB NVME SSD is like $40 retail these days.

He said external TB SSDs not USB SSDs. Check how much those cost. TB SSD of 4TB is like $1000.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I used to feel the same way about kiosks, POS terminals, etc. but… if you have an organization whose bread & butter is C# desktop apps and Windows development and they’re looking for, say, qty 10 units, you’ll have a really hard time justifying the training and NRE costs to do anything but Windows. I 100% agree that it’s not the technically optimal solution. But don’t discount the idea that, given an existing set of…

Yup, exactly this. I tried deploying such system on low powered ARM systems that could technically do it. It was a nightmare from a support and compatibility standpoint. Also the vendor would support the hardware for significantly less time than Intel would support their NUCs. The maybe dozen NUC's I needed were not a very substantial hardware cost. You bought a Celeron NUC and they just worked even if you didn't hav…

> If you're going to be deploying a thousand such systems, sure, of course you shouldn't use NUCs.

I'd probably argue that, barring specific requirements that these might not cover, the NXP i.MX6/7/8 would probably be my default for something like this in volume. ~Motorola~/~Freescale~/NXP have been incredibly great stewards of the platform and provide significant lifetime guarantees for their parts (like 10+ years often). Plus you can generally run mainline kernels on them unless you're doing something special that requires something from their vendor branch.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I find the development quite interesting, and it lends credence to the theory Intel's NUC line was technically profitable (or at least not horrifically in the red), but just didn't make strategic sense - especially from a 'competing with your own customers' view. While I never bought one of these NUCs myself, I've used quite a few deployed as thin clients and kiosk machines. Let's see what ASUS ends up doing with the…

> especially from a 'competing with your own customers' view

Intel was* a major mobo manufacturer, which is definitely competing with your channel.

* maybe still are -- I don't pay attention to that stuff any more.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I specifically chose the i7 version of the NUC 9 Extreme Kit aka Ghost Canyon, just because MBP Late 2019 has the i7-9750H (spoiler alert: they have the same CPU), so it is still pretty decent in terms of spec, but I don't get the chance to try out the new AI stuff on Apple Silicon. Another thing though, I attached my 6600 XT ITX card into the Ghost Canyon so it can also carry out huge heavylifting of video editing,…

> 6600 XT ITX card What is an ITX card? I assume that should say pcie card?

It's something like this

https://www.asrock.com/Graphics-Card/AMD/Radeon%20RX%206600%...

Single fan, low profile, high cost.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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They brought out the Serpent/Raptor Canyon recently and they're awesome bits of kit.

Nice, I'll check it out. Know some folks who swore by it for their development desktop machine, even if they didn't develop much, they'd just remote into it from the macbook as needed.

fwiw, I'm OP. I use it with 32GiB of RAM and a 1TB M.2 and it's been fantastic for day to day development on two HiDPI screens. The Vega-M graphics card mine came with is also on mainline Linux in terms of driver support.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Got to love used office equipment! I’m a big Optiplex fan and I use one as my daily personal pc for everything. I use ThinkCenters for most of my Homelab due to the fact that I’ve found them the cheapest, but I use Optiplexs when I need something stronger. But I’ve never used an Elite Desk in a homelab, how do they compare to Optiplexs and ThinkCenters?

I've never been a big fan of HP, but they seem to be roughly equivalent to the Optiplexes. The lab I used to work in had dozens of them and they seemed to run just fine without complaints.

That’s good to know, I guess that the shitty HP build quality only applies to consumer intended products. Just another example of why refurbished or used enterprise equipment is the way to go.Thanks!

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I find the development quite interesting, and it lends credence to the theory Intel's NUC line was technically profitable (or at least not horrifically in the red), but just didn't make strategic sense - especially from a 'competing with your own customers' view. While I never bought one of these NUCs myself, I've used quite a few deployed as thin clients and kiosk machines. Let's see what ASUS ends up doing with the…

With one of the third party cases, such as those from Akasa, they are nice inexpensive fanless machines with excellent Linux support and low power consumption.

Personally I liked the zotac zbox line of sff fanless machines.

But the akasa line is pretty interesting if a bit more diy.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Hoping they continue Intel's long tradition of good support for Linux/BSD.

This. Total white-box support is the model that other manufacturers have struggled to match.

What does 'white-box support' mean?

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Old (but not too old) Fujitsu mainboards are a great hack to build a computer with low power draw, especially in idle mode. They support relatively recent Intel sockets and 4 SATA ports out of the box, so really ideal for small-ish and very affordable file- and media servers. I‘ve seen in a German forum [1] specialized in this kind of thing that people reproducibly get 5-8W idle with such boards. At least in the EU,…

I have an ASUS PN40 that idles at 1.8W (_at the wall_). This is with one SSD and LPDDR3 memory.

I have a PN51 running my TV (as a dumb screen) and it's wonderful. It has a fan but I've never heard it even right close up. I haven't measured the power draw but I've never felt it any hotter than hardly detectable heat.
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