The biggest mistake a competitor can make is thinking Salesforce is a CRM. They may sell themselves as one, but that is just to get a foothold in a company's sales system. Salesforce actually sells (1) an ecosystem that lets your company connect to any other software out there and (2) a platform on which you can build...basically anything. These two together ensure that every one of their customers is 100% locked in…
Salesforce is basically the OS for your company.
Launch HN: Twenty.com (YC S23) – Open-source CRM
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#42It looks like you started with Hasura GQL and switched to your own implementation (https://github.com/twentyhq/twenty/pull/156).
Would it be possible to comment on what influenced your decision here? I've built ontop of Hasura in the past and it's permissions model seems like it'd be a good fit for a CRM
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apex is nightmare fuel
100% - having to submit code server side to just get compilation results is the worst development loop I've ever experienced.
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#46We use it for inventory, logistics, accounting, customer support, managing our partners (dealers), managing our suppliers... as well as sales.
I spent 2 years as a Salesforce developer, and still dabble in APEX from time to time.
All of that is context for what I'm about to say:
Salesforce is a nightmare to develop and maintain. The concept of a central system to run the whole business makes sense. But Salesforce has no focus, IMHO.
I like how simple and easy to use Twenty is. But what I'd love to see is something like AirTable. Yes, call it a CRM so that you have an instant use case. But make it easy to do custom development. Make sure there's a great API. Much like Wordpress, make it easy to know where I can safely extend the platform.
Do all of that, and I think you might have a winning product!
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#48The app looks nice and great to see it as open source. I have one thing to nitpick, though. The app hijacks the back and prevents the user from being able to go back
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#50I guess there are definite reasons why open-source isn't as successful in the CRM space. Buyers are mostly not developers and the requirements for a CRM are often very diverse. I agree with earlier comments, Salesforce is not just a CRM.