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Re: Launch HN: Twenty.com (YC S23) – Open-source CRM

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The biggest mistake a competitor can make is thinking Salesforce is a CRM. They may sell themselves as one, but that is just to get a foothold in a company's sales system. Salesforce actually sells (1) an ecosystem that lets your company connect to any other software out there and (2) a platform on which you can build...basically anything. These two together ensure that every one of their customers is 100% locked in…

Salesforce is basically the OS for your company.

What's SAP then?

Re: Launch HN: Twenty.com (YC S23) – Open-source CRM

#42
Congrats on launching!

It looks like you started with Hasura GQL and switched to your own implementation (https://github.com/twentyhq/twenty/pull/156).

Would it be possible to comment on what influenced your decision here? I've built ontop of Hasura in the past and it's permissions model seems like it'd be a good fit for a CRM

Re: Launch HN: Twenty.com (YC S23) – Open-source CRM

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apex is nightmare fuel

100% - having to submit code server side to just get compilation results is the worst development loop I've ever experienced.

I'm really eager to get to the point where we can work on CRM extensibility and developer experience. We're hoping to bring traditional web development workflows and not re-invent anything. We opted for a multi-tenant infrastructure for the cloud hosted version so there will be some additional challenges to make it work in that context!

Re: Launch HN: Twenty.com (YC S23) – Open-source CRM

#46
I work at a company that uses Salesforce as the system that runs the whole business. CRM barely touches on what we use it for.

We use it for inventory, logistics, accounting, customer support, managing our partners (dealers), managing our suppliers... as well as sales.

I spent 2 years as a Salesforce developer, and still dabble in APEX from time to time.

All of that is context for what I'm about to say:

Salesforce is a nightmare to develop and maintain. The concept of a central system to run the whole business makes sense. But Salesforce has no focus, IMHO.

I like how simple and easy to use Twenty is. But what I'd love to see is something like AirTable. Yes, call it a CRM so that you have an instant use case. But make it easy to do custom development. Make sure there's a great API. Much like Wordpress, make it easy to know where I can safely extend the platform.

Do all of that, and I think you might have a winning product!

Re: Launch HN: Twenty.com (YC S23) – Open-source CRM

#48

The app looks nice and great to see it as open source. I have one thing to nitpick, though. The app hijacks the back and prevents the user from being able to go back

Sorry this isn't intentional! I had just logged an issue here from a previous comment: https://github.com/twentyhq/twenty/issues/763

Re: Launch HN: Twenty.com (YC S23) – Open-source CRM

#50
Our team has recently found an open-source sales management CRM tool, Meow https://www.sales-funnel.app/, which they are happy with. Licensed under AGPL, it might be worth a look for startups.

I guess there are definite reasons why open-source isn't as successful in the CRM space. Buyers are mostly not developers and the requirements for a CRM are often very diverse. I agree with earlier comments, Salesforce is not just a CRM.

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