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Launch HN: Twenty.com (YC S23) – Open-source CRM

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Hello HN,

Seven years ago, I complained about Salesforce on HN. Somebody said: "one day, someone will do better". That stuck and today we're trying to be that “someone” with my co-founders Thomas (design) and Charles (eng like me). Our company is called Twenty and our repo is here: https://github.com/twentyhq/twenty

We want to fix two issues: most CRMs aren't enjoyable to use and they often clash with engineering teams.

YC encouraged us to launch early. What you see now is about two months' worth of feature development. Our tool only does a small part of what big CRM players offer, but we focused on providing a great user experience on the basics, instead of spreading ourselves thin across a vast range of features and delivering them half-heartedly. Plus, we've found that many small companies like the product as it is because they don't need all the complex stuff.

Once we have covered the basics, we’ll soon be working on three big features: - Moving to a robust metadata-driven architecture; - Providing innovating ways to extend the CRM with Typescript; - Making it easy to connect data sources, and fetch data in real-time like in BI tools.

The startup world is littered with ghosts of so-called "Salesforce killers", so we know it sounds naive to pitch ourselves in a similar way. But we think that if someone ends up changing this market, it will most likely be through a community-led effort. And there hasn’t really been any serious attempt to start a great new open source CRM in the last decade.

Twenty is built with Typescript, React, and NestJS with GraphQL, and licensed under AGPL. We plan to make money by offering a hosted version. Our docs are here: https://docs.twenty.com. Try on cloud: https://app.twenty.com.

Dev setup and demo: https://www.loom.com/share/7b20b44d8d5146fea8923183511bb818 (Loom said they couldn’t provide a transcript because they don’t support “language other than english” haha... apologies in advance!)

We’re very eager to get your feedback as we haven’t launched anywhere before this post. What's your CRM story? What should we prioritize next?

Re: Launch HN: Twenty.com (YC S23) – Open-source CRM

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Congrats on the launch! JFYI, app. and docs.twenty.com are both showing cloudflare origin errors at present. The signup from the main site asked me to message on WhatsApp, which I don't use, so I backed out from signing up.

Sorry about that, not sure if it's the HN trafic that crashed the server or something else. We're looking into it. The signup is on app.twenty.com and hopefully it should be back soon, I'll reply to this post when it is

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Congrats on the launch! JFYI, app. and docs.twenty.com are both showing cloudflare origin errors at present. The signup from the main site asked me to message on WhatsApp, which I don't use, so I backed out from signing up.

This is disqualifying, for me. I tried to view the CRM and it asked me to log in. There are a lot of dark patterns just at first blush that make this feel spammy.

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Congrats on the launch! JFYI, app. and docs.twenty.com are both showing cloudflare origin errors at present. The signup from the main site asked me to message on WhatsApp, which I don't use, so I backed out from signing up.

Sorry about that, not sure if it's the HN trafic that crashed the server or something else. We're looking into it. The signup is on app.twenty.com and hopefully it should be back soon, I'll reply to this post when it is

OK it should be back now

Re: Launch HN: Twenty.com (YC S23) – Open-source CRM

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this is brilliant (and great name). The true value of a salesorce/hubspot killer CRM is integrations. Most people use hubspot or salesforce just as a database and use a bunch of other tools.

If you want to do one thing - focus on integrations first and UI second. Let your integration architecture inform your UI/metadata driven architecture.

the good thing is - this is an easy step into monetization. Anyone would pay the same cost as hubspot for an opensource alternative...but with the same integrations. Managing the data pipelines is the hard part.

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Congrats on the launch! JFYI, app. and docs.twenty.com are both showing cloudflare origin errors at present. The signup from the main site asked me to message on WhatsApp, which I don't use, so I backed out from signing up.

This is disqualifying, for me. I tried to view the CRM and it asked me to log in. There are a lot of dark patterns just at first blush that make this feel spammy.

Sorry about this. Our focus for this launch was the Github repo / local setup, I should have made that more clear. We haven't launched to non-developer audience yet, that's why our marketing website redirects to a waiting list. If you want to try the app quickly you can just go to app.twenty.com and put a fake email address if you don't want to give yours. The signup is quick.

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This is disqualifying, for me. I tried to view the CRM and it asked me to log in. There are a lot of dark patterns just at first blush that make this feel spammy.

Sorry about this. Our focus for this launch was the Github repo / local setup, I should have made that more clear. We haven't launched to non-developer audience yet, that's why our marketing website redirects to a waiting list. If you want to try the app quickly you can just go to app.twenty.com and put a fake email address if you don't want to give yours. The signup is quick.

https://app.twenty.com/ just gives me a blank page right now in multiple browsers.

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this is brilliant (and great name). The true value of a salesorce/hubspot killer CRM is integrations. Most people use hubspot or salesforce just as a database and use a bunch of other tools. If you want to do one thing - focus on integrations first and UI second. Let your integration architecture inform your UI/metadata driven architecture. the good thing is - this is an easy step into monetization. Anyone would pay…

Yes that's exactly what we've seen! A lot of companies we've talked with don't have a datawarehouse / reverse-ETL, so they use the CRM for that instead,and the integrations are core the CRM value prop. That's what makes it hard for small CRMs with a nice UI to compete with large players. From that perspective, I think being open source will help us a lot build this network of integrations faster

Great feedback that we should prioritize it as early as possible, thanks!

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