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ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by _jal »

hengheng wrote: post #275
washadjeffmad wrote: post #233

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It's just a dream, but with TB4 or another high bandwidth PCIe interconnect, I'd be interested in seeing dockable cases not unlike the e-ports of yesteryear. The case design would slot in the otherwise independent NUC formfactor, providing power and airflow, housing the (e)GPU and other cards, and re-enabling all the benefits of cramming things in the 5.25" drive bays on the front of your PC. I got really frustrated…

I've been wanting for monitors to get PCIe slots for GPUs. Lots of space to get creative with cooling as well. My guess why it hasn't caught on is Thunderbolt timing issues. I could never get USB audio to work parallel to an eGPU on the same cable, which buries that whole one-cable-to-rule-them-all narrative.

I've been waiting for "board inversion" - where the video card effectively becomes the thing you insert the motherboard/CPU/RAM assembly in to.

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Post by merlyn »

tracker1 wrote: post #282
dacryn wrote: post #181

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at those form factors, they were quite price competitive. Yes many alternatives cost less, but if you want to tape them to the back of a TV that generates heat and has to be turned on 24/7 to display advertisements, video,..., they were cheapest by far. Or in meeting rooms to display zoom/teams, ... A raspberry pi just doesn't handle those scenario's

An RPi actually can handle those scenarios in many usecases. A Chromecast devices with a server feed can as well.

I've found in the long term, it can not. In the short term, yes it does work.

Perhaps my failure rate is just high, but micro-mini systems for that use case were much more reliable for me over long time frames.

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Post by kingrazor »

UnixSchizoid wrote: post #287
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Yep ThinkCentres, Optiplexes, and Elite Desks go for pennies on eBay.

Got to love used office equipment! I’m a big Optiplex fan and I use one as my daily personal pc for everything. I use ThinkCenters for most of my Homelab due to the fact that I’ve found them the cheapest, but I use Optiplexs when I need something stronger. But I’ve never used an Elite Desk in a homelab, how do they compare to Optiplexs and ThinkCenters?

I've never been a big fan of HP, but they seem to be roughly equivalent to the Optiplexes. The lab I used to work in had dozens of them and they seemed to run just fine without complaints.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by luzer7 »

flower-giraffe wrote: post #123

I think the influx of very low cost Chinese mini PCs makes the NUC, Asus PN and Asrock devices a bit less attractive. Also thelow power AMD APU has been very good for the form factor. Maybe the margins are too tight for Intel. Another take maybe that the NUC came in when low power Arm desktops looked viable and Intel needed a low power small form factor to defend against that. The Minisforum, Beelink and the generic…

Can you share a link to the model that you're running?

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by tracker1 »

merlyn wrote: post #292
tracker1 wrote: post #282

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An RPi actually can handle those scenarios in many usecases. A Chromecast devices with a server feed can as well.

I've found in the long term, it can not. In the short term, yes it does work. Perhaps my failure rate is just high, but micro-mini systems for that use case were much more reliable for me over long time frames.

I've fount the weakest link is usually the microsd cards... I've tended towards usb drives, but ymmv of course. I also switched to intel mini pcs, that offer a lot more when the gouging was happening over covid.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by sleepybrett »

I picked up a stack of nucs that a previous employer was about to recycle most of them i5s one i7. Turned them into a small kube cluster on my desk, they run my plex setup, email, mastodon server, other web applications, etc. Little things just keep humming along like no-ones business.

Was pretty saddened to hear that intel was looking at getting out of the business but glad to see asus picking up a license.

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Post by smolder »

vxNsr wrote: post #274
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zUck https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-open_central_vowel bOOk https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_central_rounded_vowel

Must be a midwestern accent thing, I don’t pronounce book, “boooook” (as in what a ghost with a cough says)

Book/nook are not as in boo/goo, but they're also not the same as in buck/Zuck. This is not a Midwestern thing. I can't recall ever meeting a native US english speaker for whom these vowel sounds weren't distinct. Probably in some accents they blur together.

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Post by sleepybrett »

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Costco occasionally has sales on Mac Mini for $299.00 (M1 Mac Mini). Right now a Mac mini – Apple M2 Chip 8-core CPU, 10-core GPU – 8GB Memory – 256GB SSD – Silver is $499 Hard pressed to buy a decent NUC for less.

They would have to run Mac OS, and that's likely a no sale for many people. There is Asahi Linux, however it's not really ready for day to day use, by comparison it would make the amount of time an Arch Linuxer spends trickering seem trivial in a business setting. Also for many a large benefit of the NUC was the ability to swap out persistence and memory at will, supported, warrantied, and in most non-starter kits wh…

Untrue, at least for the older intel ones. Have put linux and windows on a few of them over the years. The m* line one sure.. but linux support is coming and honestly macos isn't so bad if you are just using it to run homeserver stuff like file sharing/plex/etc.

I do hope that apple reverses some of it's recent 'lets just solder everything to the board' tendencies (especially in regards to storage), maybe they can start with the minis/studios and move down until the thiness of the air line means they can't anymore. Maybe the EU can sue the shit out of them like they did around the lightning cable. It's less clear to me if the soldered in RAM is a requirement of the design of the m* platform or not, but the storage certainly should certainly move to a standard like m.2/m.3/u.2. I managed to wear out the storage on a touchbar intel powerbook and getting the storage replaced basically meant getting a refurbed laptop, it took several days.

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Post by sleepybrett »

xyzzy123 wrote: post #113
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> as small a form factor as possible This is what I want. And the Mac Mini does it better than the nuc as the power bricks the Nucs use are big, ugly and annoying to deal with.

It's hard for me to put my finger on it exactly but at this point NUCs just feel more hackable . For me, that's why the mini is not a satisfactory replacement. If you want a little kube node, if you prefer the way ubuntu and debian upgrade over the way osx upgrades (and have the linux experience be decent), if you want to shuck it and slap the board in a robot and run ROS, if you want it to be a steam box with an eGP…

The last mac minis i worked with were the final gen intel ones. Very similar to a NUC, you could run whatever linux on them fine (and even windows with the bootcamp drivers). I think we'll get to m* series mac minis running linux eventually, it's just going to take some time to get it all ironed out.

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Post by smolder »

stevefan1999 wrote: post #254
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Does Logic Pro phone home to startup? If not you could just have a much longer lifespan provided you don't care about updating Logic and the underlying OS, which is ok if that box is not connected to vulnerable machines and the internet.

I specifically chose the i7 version of the NUC 9 Extreme Kit aka Ghost Canyon, just because MBP Late 2019 has the i7-9750H (spoiler alert: they have the same CPU), so it is still pretty decent in terms of spec, but I don't get the chance to try out the new AI stuff on Apple Silicon. Another thing though, I attached my 6600 XT ITX card into the Ghost Canyon so it can also carry out huge heavylifting of video editing,…

> 6600 XT ITX card

What is an ITX card? I assume that should say pcie card?

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