Beyond introvert vs. extrovert
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Beyond introvert vs. extrovert
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#2I wonder if it's even worth trying to define a person's personality? I've been following this research for a while now. Almost all the studies I've seen have substantial flaws in their scientific methodology, such as small sample sizes and selection bias, among other issues. Don't even get me started on the replication crisis in this field.
Regarding theories like Jung's introversion and extraversion or the subsequent personality models like the MBTI and the Big Five, while they have been widely used and studied, there's ongoing debate about their reliability and validity. There's substantial evidence for the general reliability of the Big Five, but it, too, has faced criticism.
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#3I didn’t know Jung came up with this concept.
The power of ideas is amazing. Hardly anyone knows Jung, but everyone knows introvert vs extravert.
The same goes for Freud, more have heard of him but still mostly under educated people, but everyone knows what is meant by subconscious, which was a concept he came up with.
Even though they both had many weird, good and bad ideas. Their reputation as great thinkers iOS valid just by these 2 contributions they made to human thoughts.
Ages from now kids will speak of their subconscious and being an introvert while Jung & Freuds names will only be known to a few niche historians.
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#4To be fair to Jung, he did not believe that anyone was a pure introvert or extrovert but he needed to use caricatures to illustrate the concepts. He also explicitly warns in Psychological Types not to use his ideas to create a personality classification system.
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#5I don't think the dichotomy is a bad rule of thumb to help understand someone, but it's certainly not their identity.
I've come to find that it's down to the person's experience with and resulting preference for crowds and individuals. It's nurture, not nature.
I used to be very introverted until I started living on my own as an adult and had shit to do and wanted things in life. I've also seen extroverts that mellowed out with age.
There's no mystery. Raise your kids and yourself accordingly.
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#6From my experience, i don't care if i'm introvert or extrovert.
WHat i do really care, is, how much i understand myself. What do i really need ? How do i say no ? How do i stay motivated ?....
Those are real matters.
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#8I wonder if it's even worth trying to define a person's personality? I've been following this research for a while now. Almost all the studies I've seen have substantial flaws in their scientific methodology, such as small sample sizes and selection bias, among other issues. Don't even get me started on the replication crisis in this field. Regarding theories like Jung's introversion and extraversion or the subsequen…
The only help I can imagine is for self discovery: it maybe gives one a handle on where to search for ideas, solutions, plans. At least that's how personality tests work for me - I enjoyed for instance the Sparketype.
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#9Introvert and extrovert is the most widely misunderstood thing I have seen at work and in personal life. This article also doesn’t do justice to the nuance that introverts find interactions with other “draining” … but it’s not necessary that they suck at it.
I feel this way: having led teams of hundreds of people, I know I can have deep, meaningful and long conversations… but I don’t find them a source of joy.
I encourage reading this recent opinion post in Washington Post that delves into this nuance with a unique perspective: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/12/rebecca-m...
Re: Beyond introvert vs. extrovert
#10To be fair to Jung, he did not believe that anyone was a pure introvert or extrovert but he needed to use caricatures to illustrate the concepts. He also explicitly warns in Psychological Types not to use his ideas to create a personality classification system.
To be fair to Jung, most of what he wrote is barely coherent garbage with zero experimental backing and an attitude towards intellectual honesty and scientific integrity which I would politely qualify as problematic. Sorry, I think it had to be said.