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Children of alumni no longer have admissions edge at Carnegie Mellon, Pitt

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Re: Children of alumni no longer have admissions edge at Carnegie Mellon, Pitt

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The end of both legacy admissions and race-based admissions makes me feel hopeful that we're finally pivoting to a productive, merit-based approach.

Only one of these is a good thing.

I don’t think discrimination against asians was a good thing!

Re: Children of alumni no longer have admissions edge at Carnegie Mellon, Pitt

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The end of both legacy admissions and race-based admissions makes me feel hopeful that we're finally pivoting to a productive, merit-based approach.

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History also definitely shows that nepotistic or race-centered systems really did not work out fine. In fact the malinged systems made by rich white people were nepotistic and race-centered.

What history does show us is that systems that reward effort, and not just someone's heritage are the ones that have led to best outcomes.

Re: Children of alumni no longer have admissions edge at Carnegie Mellon, Pitt

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Don't legacy admissions often mean that their parents have donated significantly to the University?

In a sense wouldn't that just mean that those students are essentially paying a very high premium to attend there and subsidizing the education of all the other students?

I'm not against abolishing them but I do wonder if this will have any impact on alumni donations.

Re: Children of alumni no longer have admissions edge at Carnegie Mellon, Pitt

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I went to a second-tier public school that never had legacy admissions. Is it really a big deal? Or is this largely symbolic? Do you see kids in your classes who are rich and visibly a level below everyone else intellectually or emotionally? (I did meet a few students who were born rich and enrolled in my second-tier university after failing out of first-tier universities, so that might be my exposure to the practice)

Re: Children of alumni no longer have admissions edge at Carnegie Mellon, Pitt

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The end of both legacy admissions and race-based admissions makes me feel hopeful that we're finally pivoting to a productive, merit-based approach.

Only one of these is a good thing.

and it's probably not the one you think

Re: Children of alumni no longer have admissions edge at Carnegie Mellon, Pitt

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The end of both legacy admissions and race-based admissions makes me feel hopeful that we're finally pivoting to a productive, merit-based approach.

At the same time, we're getting rid of testing in admissions decisions.

So instead we're in an era of squishy, difficult-to-judge metrics... and of course, the places where one could stand out-- interesting stories on one's transcript or essay-- are increasingly being evaluated by AI.

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