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Securing Your Domain Against Seizure: Where Is Safe to Register a Domain Name?

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Re: Securing Your Domain Against Seizure: Where Is Safe to Register a Domain Name?

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Agree. And all of this is ridiculous anyway. A non-issue for the vast majority of startups who want to do something in the US. Think you're going to get funding and grow your company with a foreign TLD doing something that the US government might disapprove of? Not to mention the fact that the entire OP is based on the way things are TODAY and that assumes it's even accurate. Which of course it's not (just taking you…

> Think you're going to get funding and grow your company with a foreign TLD doing something that the US government might disapprove of? The web's biggest sites right now (e.g. YouTube and Facebook) are doing things the U.S. government doesn't approve of. They haven't been shut down ... yet ... but Megaupload has, and what's the functional difference between what Megaupload does and what YouTube does? My point is jus…

> but Megaupload has, and what's the functional difference between what Megaupload does and what YouTube does?

The difference, at an organisational level, is that MegaUpload is run by a very small team and is "foreign". Google/YouTube, on the other hand, is an American company employing a number of Americans.

The majority of voters probably care little about MegaUpload (even if they should care). But you can be sure they'd care if YouTube was shut down/the domain seized.

Re: Securing Your Domain Against Seizure: Where Is Safe to Register a Domain Name?

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I think a distributed .alt where people can have a "backup" of their domain would be nice. gun.io with gun.io.alt running concurrently on the distributed system. It would be a nice reference to the alt.* Usenet split in response to attempts to control it. The underlying technology and how to arrange it is another question though. Edit: Mcantelon's reference elsewhere in the thread to namecoin looks like a good start…

The tech is largely a solved problem, also one can download the zone-files[1] to seed/sync the new system.

The real problem is the chicken/egg one, this is where all past attempts towards an alternate DNS have failed.

[1] http://www.premiumdrops.com/zones.html

Re: Securing Your Domain Against Seizure: Where Is Safe to Register a Domain Name?

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I think a distributed .alt where people can have a "backup" of their domain would be nice. gun.io with gun.io.alt running concurrently on the distributed system. It would be a nice reference to the alt.* Usenet split in response to attempts to control it. The underlying technology and how to arrange it is another question though. Edit: Mcantelon's reference elsewhere in the thread to namecoin looks like a good start…

Repeat after me: NOBODY WILL EVER USE AN ALTERNATE ROOT. EVER.

It took over a decade to get everyone on the same page re: IPv6, and everybody WANTS that. Be realistic. It ain't gonna happen, ever.

Re: Securing Your Domain Against Seizure: Where Is Safe to Register a Domain Name?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Think you're going to get funding and grow your company with a foreign TLD doing something that the US government might disapprove of? The web's biggest sites right now (e.g. YouTube and Facebook) are doing things the U.S. government doesn't approve of. They haven't been shut down ... yet ... but Megaupload has, and what's the functional difference between what Megaupload does and what YouTube does? My point is jus…

> but Megaupload has, and what's the functional difference between what Megaupload does and what YouTube does? The difference, at an organisational level, is that MegaUpload is run by a very small team and is "foreign". Google/YouTube, on the other hand, is an American company employing a number of Americans. The majority of voters probably care little about MegaUpload (even if they should care). But you can be sure…

What you said reminded me of an old saying. It goes something like this.

"If you owe the bank $10,000 and can't pay you have a problem. If you owe the bank $100,000,000 and can't pay the bank has a problem".

Size matters.

Re: Securing Your Domain Against Seizure: Where Is Safe to Register a Domain Name?

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UAE and Palestine? Seriously? UAE has a questionable track record insofar as journalistic freedom is concerned. It ranks #112, below Liberia and South Sudan, in RSF's Press Freedom Index. What if one of the Emirs is offended by what I post on the site? Palestine ranks #153, not to mention you'd have to take Israel into consideration when you do anything Palestine-related. Gandi.net is an excellent registrar, but I'm…

I thought the same thing initially, but that's what the person I was interview said. He is the most knowledgeable person I have ever talked to about this sort of thing, as he provides administration services to many, many TLDs: http://www.pch.net/technology/anycast.php

Is .io secure from seizure?

Re: Securing Your Domain Against Seizure: Where Is Safe to Register a Domain Name?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Think you're going to get funding and grow your company with a foreign TLD doing something that the US government might disapprove of? The web's biggest sites right now (e.g. YouTube and Facebook) are doing things the U.S. government doesn't approve of. They haven't been shut down ... yet ... but Megaupload has, and what's the functional difference between what Megaupload does and what YouTube does? My point is jus…

> but Megaupload has, and what's the functional difference between what Megaupload does and what YouTube does? The difference, at an organisational level, is that MegaUpload is run by a very small team and is "foreign". Google/YouTube, on the other hand, is an American company employing a number of Americans. The majority of voters probably care little about MegaUpload (even if they should care). But you can be sure…

Yes, exactly.

What this means functionally is that small startups who do the exact same thing as the industry giants will be the ones targeted and shut down. The logical conclusion is that, if you want to start a web application, it might be worth it to found and host your company outside the US.

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