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Re: Sweden Sans

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Sweden using Ø for 0 is so insensitive towards their fellow Scandic neighbors to the west! Such a Swedish thing to do.

Yeah I know Sweden uses Ö but when two of their neighbors uses Ø it seems so ignorant. I get annoyed at and confused but can forgive fonts made in primarily English speaking people when they don't have a normal zero but I would have expected more from a fellow Scandinavian country.

Re: Sweden Sans

#172

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It's definitely interesting how countries have their own PR these days. And it's working, if you think of a nordic country, chances are, Sweden is the first one that comes to mind.

> Sweden is the first one that comes to mind Is it? Norway has been topping all the livability charts for at least the past decade so that's the one I've always considered "the best in the world." Then probably the Netherlands, if you stretch the definition of Nordic.

Netherlands? Are you perhaps thinking of Denmark?

Re: Sweden Sans

#173
post #22

I am fascinated by typography and page design and enjoy reading about it, but I have to admit I don't understand how this level of pedantry is able to survive. The amount of documentation and attention to detail spent on typefaces and when to use them is often off the charts compared to the time spent on stuff like keeping the website running, documenting the API or even the basic functionality of the app. It's like…

Typographic documentation is for designers generally, but there is a world where this can actually help everyone. Designers should make consistent designs. By doing this Developers can create functional designs systems that have sane default behaviors. Once you can get to that point, the system serves to reduce the load from the dev, not increase. I have created a tailwind-based design system interpretation like this…

> Our designs and our tailwind-config comes from the same spec.

Is this the design system you created, or is this something others can use (or both)? As someone who's avoided frontend work primarily because I find CSS tedious, having a system over top of it that speaks design language sounds interesting.

Admittedly, looking at Tailwind now, looks like it's worth just trying that to start with.

Re: Sweden Sans

#175
post #44

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Typographic documentation is for designers generally, but there is a world where this can actually help everyone. Designers should make consistent designs. By doing this Developers can create functional designs systems that have sane default behaviors. Once you can get to that point, the system serves to reduce the load from the dev, not increase. I have created a tailwind-based design system interpretation like this…

Good points which I generally agree with, but I still think it's common to see a remarkable level of time and effort spent on typography compared to even other parts of the frontend. Not always, but surprisingly often. Many companies have these style guides around typography. Beautiful, thoughtful, very well made things for sure, yet when some backend dev makes a typo so the custom font drops to arial or whatever, it…

Companies value their branding because it's the public face of a company. It's very visible, and if not everywhere, then certainly in a lot of places. And there are a lot of people across any large organization who might wind up having to put together printed materials that include branding elements: it can range from an assistant ordering business cards for a new hire, to a random staffer wanting to put an ad in a local high school musical's program booklet, to the team working on the organization's website.

Brand guidelines tend to seem expansive because they have to break things down in a way that's very easy for all sorts of people to adopt with minimal hassle. From what I've seen, the moment that process gets anywhere within a thousand miles of difficult, people will say "forget it" and do what they want.

Despite all that, branding doesn't really require much in the way of ongoing resource commitments from an organization. They get put together when the brand is updated, and more often than not, the entire process is often outsourced to agencies. Either way, once it's done, it's done for a while.

It's also often publicly available. You can find brand guides for all sorts of companies and organizations available online. Technical documentation is almost always internal, unless we're talking about stuff that's been open-sourced, API documentation, etc. It's also ongoing and is in constant need of updating as code gets updated. As a result, there's no need to pretty it up beyond whatever makes it accessible to your developers. The priority is on keeping it updated as best you can, within the limits of available resources. That doesn't always happen, of course.

Different audiences merit different approaches, and because one is more visible, it may give the false impression that it's of higher importance to an organization.

Re: Sweden Sans

#176
post #42

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I agree with much of your comment, but take umbrage with: > the point of the entire backend of an app is to serve the front end It’s a phoney argument. Once can just as easily say “the whole point of a front end is to provide simple access to the backend, rather than doing it via APIs”. The whole system is important. Some backends have appalling frontends and are still popular. The opposite is also true.

I was kinda hoping that the OP would counter with that line and then I would agree and make exactly your point haha. My point was simply that the system is interdependent as opposed to the OP's take that the FE consistency doesn't matter.

>the OP's take that the FE consistency doesn't matter.

No no, FE consistency matters for sure! I really appreciate a good brand identity document, it's really nice to have.

But using Arial everywhere would also be consistent, right?

Re: Sweden Sans

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> Sweden is the first one that comes to mind Is it? Norway has been topping all the livability charts for at least the past decade so that's the one I've always considered "the best in the world." Then probably the Netherlands, if you stretch the definition of Nordic.

Netherlands? Are you perhaps thinking of Denmark?

I'm thinking of "Not Just Bikes" on YouTube, so definitely the Netherlands. I rarely hear about Denmark. Finland even less so.

Re: Sweden Sans

#178
post #172

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Netherlands? Are you perhaps thinking of Denmark?

I'm thinking of "Not Just Bikes" on YouTube, so definitely the Netherlands. I rarely hear about Denmark. Finland even less so.

Finland is thought to house the happiest people in the world which I always found an interesting contrast to their more grim and hardened reputation!

In 2023 too, no less than six years in a row!

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/27/1166180048/finland-is-the-wor...

Re: Sweden Sans

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I’d wager that it’s a reference to the old Swedish name for the Pacific Ocean and not Södermalm.

Söderhavet is the Pacific? But that makes no sense, geographically!

"Southern sea" sounds reasonable from the viewpoint of early Nordic seafarers. Based on a quick glance of the map, all of the Atlantic is south of Sweden.

Re: Sweden Sans

#180
post #160

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It's definitely interesting how countries have their own PR these days. And it's working, if you think of a nordic country, chances are, Sweden is the first one that comes to mind.

Tbh, they're all nearly the same country in my mind. Minor differences, all in all.

Definitely different countries in my mind, just because of the accent when speaking English. Norwegians have a pleasant accent, but it gets harder to understand as it goes west. The Finns I have met are really hard to understand.
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