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Proton Pass: Open-Source and Encrypted Password Manager App

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Re: Proton Pass: Open-Source and Encrypted Password Manager App

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It's amazing how many new products Proton manages to make while still barely supporting their VPN on Linux. On the one hand, nice work proton team. On the other, you lost a VPN customer today.

Just a thought, maybe their linux market share is just negligible? If it's not a worthwhile investment of resources, why do it?

Re: Proton Pass: Open-Source and Encrypted Password Manager App

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post #3

It's amazing how many new products Proton manages to make while still barely supporting their VPN on Linux. On the one hand, nice work proton team. On the other, you lost a VPN customer today.

Just a thought, maybe their linux market share is just negligible? If it's not a worthwhile investment of resources, why do it?

Seems a bit chicken and egg considering the obvious overlaps between both open source and privacy orientation with Linux and Proton.

Re: Proton Pass: Open-Source and Encrypted Password Manager App

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I know it may be nitpicking or just pedantic, but they say on their page "Your data also never goes to the cloud, as we own and manage our own server infrastructure." But...if you upload your data to their servers (so it can go to all your devices), isn't that the "cloud"?

Yes

Re: Proton Pass: Open-Source and Encrypted Password Manager App

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Saw this some time ago. Any advantages over, say, Bitwarden ?

The main advantage is that it can also set up an ‘alias’ which is a pseudo email address which forwards to your real email address. Really, I think the alias feature should be added into protonmail and removed from proton pass. Bitwarden UI has the edge though, imo.

https://bitwarden.com/help/generator/#username-types

Re: Proton Pass: Open-Source and Encrypted Password Manager App

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post #3

It's amazing how many new products Proton manages to make while still barely supporting their VPN on Linux. On the one hand, nice work proton team. On the other, you lost a VPN customer today.

Just a thought, maybe their linux market share is just negligible? If it's not a worthwhile investment of resources, why do it?

It could be the other way around, their Linux market share is poor due to their poor support of it. Also, the types of people who use Linux also tend to be the types of people who would be interested in their product.

Re: Proton Pass: Open-Source and Encrypted Password Manager App

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I know it may be nitpicking or just pedantic, but they say on their page "Your data also never goes to the cloud, as we own and manage our own server infrastructure." But...if you upload your data to their servers (so it can go to all your devices), isn't that the "cloud"?

It depends what you mean by data. Metadata maybe, but I'd think they're meaning that once your passwords data is encrypted (on your device), it is no longer your data without the encryption key?

Re: Proton Pass: Open-Source and Encrypted Password Manager App

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I know it may be nitpicking or just pedantic, but they say on their page "Your data also never goes to the cloud, as we own and manage our own server infrastructure." But...if you upload your data to their servers (so it can go to all your devices), isn't that the "cloud"?

I think you're conflating "cloud" to mean any computer on the internet. I think that's generally a fine thing to do most of the time. But, cloud used to mean something a little different and it's been lost to weird arguments it seems.

I look at the cloud as something I can spin up a new service or VM very quickly. Think AWS, or Azure or whatever other service lets you quickly and easily deploy something.

We've now gotten to the point where people are saying any computer on the internet is "the cloud" and I don't think that's right or wrong necessarily, but for the sake of Hacker News, I do wish we were a little more specific.

That said, I think this argument from Proton is bordering on funny word play to make it seem different.

Re: Proton Pass: Open-Source and Encrypted Password Manager App

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post #3

It's amazing how many new products Proton manages to make while still barely supporting their VPN on Linux. On the one hand, nice work proton team. On the other, you lost a VPN customer today.

Just a thought, maybe their linux market share is just negligible? If it's not a worthwhile investment of resources, why do it?

It's clearly a worthwhile investment of resources to their major competitors like Mullvad and IVPN, whose Linux clients are just as good as their Windows/macOS clients, if not better. In contrast, ProtonVPN's Linux app is so painfully buggy to use that you're better off just generating and using Proton Wireguard config files with command-line Wireguard instead.

Re: Proton Pass: Open-Source and Encrypted Password Manager App

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I prefer to diversify. That's why I have Bitwarden, Tutanota, NextCloud & ProtonVPN.

IMO it does not make sense to use any service from your VPN provider at the same time - it's like not using a VPN at all since they do know your real IP. No idea why this is not known to more people.

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