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Microsoft faces antitrust scrutiny from the EU over Teams, Office 365

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Re: Microsoft faces antitrust scrutiny from the EU over Teams, Office 365

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Jeez man. Everyone keeps bashing on Microsoft for this shit. Have they seen Google, Amazon, etc?

Apple is the worst of the bunch imo. My personal ranking for worst antitrust offenders would be:

1) Apple 2) Amazon 3) Google 4) Microsoft

Internationally that may be slightly different though. I’d also maybe include meta for their oculus purchase but I think they’ve tied it into their core, “social” business well enough that I’m not very concerned at the moment when there are bigger fish to fry.

Re: Microsoft faces antitrust scrutiny from the EU over Teams, Office 365

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Jeez man. Everyone keeps bashing on Microsoft for this shit. Have they seen Google, Amazon, etc?

Apple, Google, Tesla etc seem to have mastered the art of regulatory dodgeball through observational experience and a successful series of pr campaigns of brand identity. There's no better evidence than HN itself where it's common practice to defend these companies for the analogous actions.

That same perception is why I think ms tends to be under scrutiny, as it should, but others don't. It's a real shame.

Re: Microsoft faces antitrust scrutiny from the EU over Teams, Office 365

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post #4

Jeez man. Everyone keeps bashing on Microsoft for this shit. Have they seen Google, Amazon, etc?

I also don't understand what they expect. That Microsoft bundles google meet? amazon chime? Slack?

For MS to stop using it's overwhelmingly dominant position on desktops (Office) to take out it's competitors in online communications (Slack, Zoom, etc).

Re: Microsoft faces antitrust scrutiny from the EU over Teams, Office 365

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post #3

Jeez man. Everyone keeps bashing on Microsoft for this shit. Have they seen Google, Amazon, etc?

Apple is the worst of the bunch imo. My personal ranking for worst antitrust offenders would be: 1) Apple 2) Amazon 3) Google 4) Microsoft Internationally that may be slightly different though. I’d also maybe include meta for their oculus purchase but I think they’ve tied it into their core, “social” business well enough that I’m not very concerned at the moment when there are bigger fish to fry.

Nope. Google. They are on their way to corner the browser market. They've already killed Operas Presto and about every other engine except research engines and Firefox.

Chrome and the way they pushed it with ads on the front page of Google [1]. The way Calendar and YouTube again and again has issues with Firefox.

Or how some things just doesn't work in anything except Chrome - but hey, if you change how the browser identifies itself, suddenly other browsers work too.

[1]: no one else, even disaster relief I thinkhas been allowed a spot there. The market value of weeks in that spot must be billions.

Re: Microsoft faces antitrust scrutiny from the EU over Teams, Office 365

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post #4

Jeez man. Everyone keeps bashing on Microsoft for this shit. Have they seen Google, Amazon, etc?

I also don't understand what they expect. That Microsoft bundles google meet? amazon chime? Slack?

> Slack filed a complaint with the EU in 2020, claiming that Microsoft was "force installing [Teams] for millions, blocking its removal, and hiding the true cost to enterprise customers."

I'm pretty sure force installing even more software and blocking removal isn't what they are going for.

Re: Microsoft faces antitrust scrutiny from the EU over Teams, Office 365

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This is really good, but needs to be done in parallel with the investigation of how Google destroyed a thriving browser market just as it was recovering from IE.

(Massive ad campaigns, and products that had weird bugs in other browsers for no good reason.)

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