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ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by vkazanov »

nextos wrote: post #36
RandomBK wrote: post #5

I find the development quite interesting, and it lends credence to the theory Intel's NUC line was technically profitable (or at least not horrifically in the red), but just didn't make strategic sense - especially from a 'competing with your own customers' view. While I never bought one of these NUCs myself, I've used quite a few deployed as thin clients and kiosk machines. Let's see what ASUS ends up doing with the…

With one of the third party cases, such as those from Akasa, they are nice inexpensive fanless machines with excellent Linux support and low power consumption.

Decent Intel NUCs are ok price-wise, but definitely not cheap. A decent Linux-preinstalled box for my kid's Minecraft needs was about 800£ (non-basic Entroware Aura) here in UK.

It's a good machine technically speaking: perfect for lightweight gaming, office stuff, browsing, etc. But I suspect that a comparable mini PC from asian vendors would be twice as cheap and just as good. A laptop would be even easier.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by lhoff »

squokko wrote: post #101
RandomBK wrote: post #5

I find the development quite interesting, and it lends credence to the theory Intel's NUC line was technically profitable (or at least not horrifically in the red), but just didn't make strategic sense - especially from a 'competing with your own customers' view. While I never bought one of these NUCs myself, I've used quite a few deployed as thin clients and kiosk machines. Let's see what ASUS ends up doing with the…

Why would the business be horrifically in the red? It's commodity hardware at a slightly premium price.

Development cost and low sales. If they spend to much for the R&D and then sold not enough units to recoup the cost then the business would be in the red.

Over the years they developed some pretty special units. Examples are the Extreme Compute Element (NUCs in PCIe form factor) or the Hades Canyon with RXVega GPU and in general the more gaming focused NUCs. I don't think those were sold in high volume numbers.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by tudorw »

vkazanov wrote: post #151
nextos wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With one of the third party cases, such as those from Akasa, they are nice inexpensive fanless machines with excellent Linux support and low power consumption.

Decent Intel NUCs are ok price-wise, but definitely not cheap. A decent Linux-preinstalled box for my kid's Minecraft needs was about 800£ (non-basic Entroware Aura) here in UK. It's a good machine technically speaking: perfect for lightweight gaming, office stuff, browsing, etc. But I suspect that a comparable mini PC from asian vendors would be twice as cheap and just as good. A laptop would be even easier.

I have tried a couple of pretenders and they were not up to the 24/7 load I have lined up, random reboots and lockups, maybe it was bad luck, maybe it was thermal management, either way the NUC keeps trucking.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by tjoff »

speedgoose wrote: post #140
Symbiote wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For noise, you could budget about $100 for a fanless case for the NUC.

Wouldn’t it run slow? The Intel CPU data sheet says it emits 95W of heat in "turbo" mode. Is there fanless NUC cases capable to dissipate that amount of heat, without even thinking about the other sources of heat?

You don't design your cooling system to maintain peak turbo consumption. Thermal Design Power is 45W.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by Havoc »

flyinghamster wrote: post #18
magicalhippo wrote: post #4

Been using an Asus PN51[1] with KDE Neon for about a year, and overall I'm very happy with it. Performance is good, never had a crash, stuff just worked out of the box without fuzz. Seems like a decent fit to me. [1]: https://www.asus.com/us/displays-desktops/mini-pcs/pn-series...

Another happy PN51 user (R7 4700U) - I've found it to be quite the mighty mite working with big NetBeans projects. I'm honestly not surprised that Asus would pick up the NUC line.

The pn51 didn’t ship with a 4700. You’re either using a pn50 or 5700

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by gonzo »

transpute wrote: post #91

Would Asus or ASRock be interested in continuing the PC Engines APU2 line of low-power, fanless x86 embedded systems with coreboot? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35635900#35636960 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35635900#35636517

If they were it probably would have already occurred.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by maccard »

RandomBK wrote: post #5

I find the development quite interesting, and it lends credence to the theory Intel's NUC line was technically profitable (or at least not horrifically in the red), but just didn't make strategic sense - especially from a 'competing with your own customers' view. While I never bought one of these NUCs myself, I've used quite a few deployed as thin clients and kiosk machines. Let's see what ASUS ends up doing with the…

I bought two NUCs, one personally and one through work. I had a desktop class i9 chipset that I could travel around the world with. I actually plugged it into something like [0] with an eGPU when it was at home for the extra oomph.

I'd buy another for my next machine.

[0] https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-MasterCase-enclosure-...

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by dmvdoug »

tim-fan wrote: post #150
dmvdoug wrote: post #119

How are people pronouncing NUC? Like “nuck” (rhymes with “Zuck”) or “nuke” (rhymes with “puke”)?

Or nook (rhymes with book)? At work I say nuck, but most others say nook, so I'd like to get to the bottom of this!

Now I’m imagining your coworkers talking about getting nookie.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by hnick »

vkazanov wrote: post #151
nextos wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With one of the third party cases, such as those from Akasa, they are nice inexpensive fanless machines with excellent Linux support and low power consumption.

Decent Intel NUCs are ok price-wise, but definitely not cheap. A decent Linux-preinstalled box for my kid's Minecraft needs was about 800£ (non-basic Entroware Aura) here in UK. It's a good machine technically speaking: perfect for lightweight gaming, office stuff, browsing, etc. But I suspect that a comparable mini PC from asian vendors would be twice as cheap and just as good. A laptop would be even easier.

There are Intel NUC laptops, or as they call them kits, I'm not sure what the details are. They're sold and branded by third parties but the guts are the same, except maybe the RAM and SSD (very minor customisation anyway). When I was looking I ended up with one since it was a pretty good price compared to the competition, I wanted one with a serviceable GPU for occasional games.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by speedgoose »

tjoff wrote: post #154
speedgoose wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn’t it run slow? The Intel CPU data sheet says it emits 95W of heat in "turbo" mode. Is there fanless NUC cases capable to dissipate that amount of heat, without even thinking about the other sources of heat?

You don't design your cooling system to maintain peak turbo consumption. Thermal Design Power is 45W.

Why not? With max 45W it would throttle a lot under heavy loads.
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