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Re: Llama 2

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Here are some benchmarks, excellent to see that an open model is approaching (and in some areas surpassing) GPT-3.5! AI2 Reasoning Challenge (25-shot) - a set of grade-school science questions. - Llama 1 (llama-65b): 57.6 - LLama 2 (llama-2-70b-chat-hf): 64.6 - GPT-3.5: 85.2 - GPT-4: 96.3 HellaSwag (10-shot) - a test of commonsense inference, which is easy for humans (~95%) but challenging for SOTA models. - Llama 1:…

Your Llama2 MMLU figure is wrong

Re: Llama 2

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post #275

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Still fails my hippo test! > Yes, hippos are excellent swimmers. They spend most of their time in the water, where they feed on aquatic plants and escape the heat of the savannah. In fact, hippos are one of the best swimmers among all land mammals. But that's fine. Most do. Hippos don't swim. They walk or hop/skip at best underwater.

There's a few prompts that I use with every model to compare them. One of the simplest ones is: > When does the bowl of the winds get used in the wheel of time books? LLaMA2 fails pretty hard: > The Bowl of the Winds is a significant artifact in the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan. It is first introduced in the third book, "The Dragon Reborn," and plays a crucial role in the series throughout the rest of the bo…

Contains a valid roman numeral or is a valid roman numeral? My first instinct was it should return true if the string contains V or I or M or... Whatever the other letters are.

Re: Llama 2

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The impact of this, I think is that the LLM is right, hippos do swim, because that's how people commonly describe what hippos do, such that it gets into the training set

That's just stupid talk. It either swims or it doesnt. A drowning hippo isn't going to wish itself to float.

>It either swims or it doesnt

Correct, it swims.

>A drowning hippo isn't going to wish itself to float.

A drowning hippo probably wishes it can float, much like a drowning person wishes they can float.

Re: Llama 2

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post #531

Key detail from release: > If, on the Llama 2 version release date, the monthly active users of the products or services made available by or for Licensee, or Licensee’s affiliates, is greater than 700 million monthly active users in the preceding calendar month, you must request a license from Meta, which Meta may grant to you in its sole discretion, and you are not authorized to exercise any of the rights under thi…

Lately I’ve been wondering if a license similar to this but instead based on market cap could be a way to monetize open source projects E.g. 100k/year for each trillion in market cap, updated yearly. First trillion is free

It probably costed tens of millions to create the model. 100k per trillion market cap won't pay for that investment. If there was a potential trillion dollar market cap for applications of this model they wouldn't give it away for free. Facebook does not have a trillion dollar market cap.

Re: Llama 2

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post #515

Here are some benchmarks, excellent to see that an open model is approaching (and in some areas surpassing) GPT-3.5! AI2 Reasoning Challenge (25-shot) - a set of grade-school science questions. - Llama 1 (llama-65b): 57.6 - LLama 2 (llama-2-70b-chat-hf): 64.6 - GPT-3.5: 85.2 - GPT-4: 96.3 HellaSwag (10-shot) - a test of commonsense inference, which is easy for humans (~95%) but challenging for SOTA models. - Llama 1:…

Good to see these results, thanks for posting. I wonder if GPT-4's dominance is due to some secret sauce or if its just the first mover advantage and Llama will be there soon.

Re: Llama 2

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Key detail from release: > If, on the Llama 2 version release date, the monthly active users of the products or services made available by or for Licensee, or Licensee’s affiliates, is greater than 700 million monthly active users in the preceding calendar month, you must request a license from Meta, which Meta may grant to you in its sole discretion, and you are not authorized to exercise any of the rights under thi…

Are they not within their rights to spell it out? Can they just say "free for everyone except Google and Microsoft"?

Re: Llama 2

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post #60

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Google's model is not as capable as llama-derived models, so I think they would actually benefit from this. > I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon does as well. I would - they are not a very major player in this space. TikTok also meets this definition and probably doesn't have LLM.

Google has far better models than llama based models. They just simply don't put them facing the public. It is pretty ridiculous that they essentially just set a marketing team with no programming experience to write Bard, but that shouldn't fool anyone into believing they don't have capable models in Google. If Deepmind were to actually provide what they have in some usable form, it would likely be quite good. Despi…

Source?

Re: Llama 2

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post #515

Here are some benchmarks, excellent to see that an open model is approaching (and in some areas surpassing) GPT-3.5! AI2 Reasoning Challenge (25-shot) - a set of grade-school science questions. - Llama 1 (llama-65b): 57.6 - LLama 2 (llama-2-70b-chat-hf): 64.6 - GPT-3.5: 85.2 - GPT-4: 96.3 HellaSwag (10-shot) - a test of commonsense inference, which is easy for humans (~95%) but challenging for SOTA models. - Llama 1:…

Is it possible that some LLM’s are trained on these benchmarks? Which would mean they’re overfitting and are incorrectly ranked? Or am I misunderstanding these benchmarks?…

Re: Llama 2

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post #81

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I’m not worried about the semantics if it is free and available for commercial use too I’m fine just calling “a license”

It's disappointing that you're stuck using LLaMA at Meta's pleasure for their approved application. I was hoping they would show some leadership and release this under the same terms (Apache 2.0) as PyTorch and their other models, but they've chosen to go this route now which sets a horrible precedent. A future where you can only do what FAANG wants you to is pretty grim even if most of the restrictions sound benign…

yeah that would be great if people were motivated to do alternatives with similar efficacy and reach

Re: Llama 2

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post #515

Here are some benchmarks, excellent to see that an open model is approaching (and in some areas surpassing) GPT-3.5! AI2 Reasoning Challenge (25-shot) - a set of grade-school science questions. - Llama 1 (llama-65b): 57.6 - LLama 2 (llama-2-70b-chat-hf): 64.6 - GPT-3.5: 85.2 - GPT-4: 96.3 HellaSwag (10-shot) - a test of commonsense inference, which is easy for humans (~95%) but challenging for SOTA models. - Llama 1:…

Your Llama2 MMLU figure is wrong

Looks like he copied it from https://huggingface.co/spaces/HuggingFaceH4/open_llm_leaderb...

I see different figures in different places, no idea what's right.

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