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Re: Llama 2

#541

In the things you can't do (at https://ai.meta.com/llama/use-policy/ ): "Military, warfare, *nuclear industries or applications*" Odd given the climate situation to say the least...

That is very common in software licenses.

e.g. iTunes:

You Can’t Use iTunes To Make Nuclear Bombs And Wage Chemical Warfare

https://www.cultofmac.com/140224/itunes-eula-wtf/amp/

Re: Llama 2

#542
post #531

Key detail from release: > If, on the Llama 2 version release date, the monthly active users of the products or services made available by or for Licensee, or Licensee’s affiliates, is greater than 700 million monthly active users in the preceding calendar month, you must request a license from Meta, which Meta may grant to you in its sole discretion, and you are not authorized to exercise any of the rights under thi…

Lately I’ve been wondering if a license similar to this but instead based on market cap could be a way to monetize open source projects E.g. 100k/year for each trillion in market cap, updated yearly. First trillion is free

Seems mostly very doable.

Back in 2011 at my (failed) startup we had a license like that with an NLP provider/ vendor. I don't remember the exact details, but, one caveat was that we HAD to have an equity part to the deal to satisfy Delaware Law/ some other esoteric bit I don't recall.

We already had negotiated an equity stake baked into the agreement, but I do recall that being a very specific requirement both our lawyers raised. I wonder how you could scale something like your proposed scenario and the overhead for the equity requirement, for open source projects.

Re: Llama 2

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post #531

Key detail from release: > If, on the Llama 2 version release date, the monthly active users of the products or services made available by or for Licensee, or Licensee’s affiliates, is greater than 700 million monthly active users in the preceding calendar month, you must request a license from Meta, which Meta may grant to you in its sole discretion, and you are not authorized to exercise any of the rights under thi…

Lately I’ve been wondering if a license similar to this but instead based on market cap could be a way to monetize open source projects E.g. 100k/year for each trillion in market cap, updated yearly. First trillion is free

Problem is then it wouldn't be truly open source. And if your project isn't opensource, a lot of other projects can't include/link/build on your project.

Re: Llama 2

#544
post #531

Key detail from release: > If, on the Llama 2 version release date, the monthly active users of the products or services made available by or for Licensee, or Licensee’s affiliates, is greater than 700 million monthly active users in the preceding calendar month, you must request a license from Meta, which Meta may grant to you in its sole discretion, and you are not authorized to exercise any of the rights under thi…

Lately I’ve been wondering if a license similar to this but instead based on market cap could be a way to monetize open source projects E.g. 100k/year for each trillion in market cap, updated yearly. First trillion is free

So I create a company, which serves as a proxy, keeping my market cap low (yay private company) and sell the service of running your open source software for others.

One way or another it will be tricked.

Re: Llama 2

#545
post #275

Hey HN, we've released tools that make it easy to test LLaMa 2 and add it to your own app! Model playground here: https://llama2.ai Hosted chat API here: https://replicate.com/a16z-infra/llama13b-v2-chat If you want to just play with the model, llama2.ai is a very easy way to do it. So far, we’ve found the performance is similar to GPT-3.5 with far fewer parameters, especially for creative tasks and interactions. Dev…

Still fails my hippo test! > Yes, hippos are excellent swimmers. They spend most of their time in the water, where they feed on aquatic plants and escape the heat of the savannah. In fact, hippos are one of the best swimmers among all land mammals. But that's fine. Most do. Hippos don't swim. They walk or hop/skip at best underwater.

Failed to write a quarter decent story too. Thought that was one of the easier things LLMs could do.

https://replicate.com/p/wumxgirb2a5phkl6cqh5yt4l6i

Re: Llama 2

#546
post #531

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lately I’ve been wondering if a license similar to this but instead based on market cap could be a way to monetize open source projects E.g. 100k/year for each trillion in market cap, updated yearly. First trillion is free

So I create a company, which serves as a proxy, keeping my market cap low (yay private company) and sell the service of running your open source software for others. One way or another it will be tricked.

"This license is revocable at any time, if, in the opinion of the author, the spirit of the license isn't being upheld".

Re: Llama 2

#548
post #520

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a few prompts that I use with every model to compare them. One of the simplest ones is: > When does the bowl of the winds get used in the wheel of time books? LLaMA2 fails pretty hard: > The Bowl of the Winds is a significant artifact in the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan. It is first introduced in the third book, "The Dragon Reborn," and plays a crucial role in the series throughout the rest of the bo…

I suppose that current LLMs are incapable of answering such questions by saying "I don't know". The have no notion of facts, or any other epistemic categories. They work basically by inventing a plausible-sounding continuation of a dialog, based on an extensive learning set. They will always find a plausible-sounding answer to a plausible-sounding question: so much learning material correlates to that. Before epistem…

They kind of do, since the predictions are well calibrated before they go through RLHF, so inside the model activations there is some notion of confidence.

Even with a RLHF model, you can say "is that correct?" and after an incorrect statement it is far more likely to correct itself than after a correct statement.

Re: Llama 2

#549

Key detail from release: > If, on the Llama 2 version release date, the monthly active users of the products or services made available by or for Licensee, or Licensee’s affiliates, is greater than 700 million monthly active users in the preceding calendar month, you must request a license from Meta, which Meta may grant to you in its sole discretion, and you are not authorized to exercise any of the rights under thi…

That's an oddly high number for blocking competition. OpenAI's ChatGPT hit 100 million MAUs in January, and has gone down since. It's essentially a "Amazon and Google don't use this k thx."

Also, any company with 700 million active users wouldn't have much difficulty reproducing this work.

Re: Llama 2

#550
post #354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe anti-Twitter? Aren't Elon and Zuck having a spat?

Twitter only has 300-400 million MAU [1] so I don’t think they’d be immediately affected. Although I suppose they might have an aim of growing past 700m and therefore be deterred. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/303681/twitter-users-wor...

The term is carefully written... The user count only matters on the day Llama 2 is released. Which means this doesn't deter any company with growth plans.
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