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Re: Llama 2

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Hey HN, we've released tools that make it easy to test LLaMa 2 and add it to your own app! Model playground here: https://llama2.ai Hosted chat API here: https://replicate.com/a16z-infra/llama13b-v2-chat If you want to just play with the model, llama2.ai is a very easy way to do it. So far, we’ve found the performance is similar to GPT-3.5 with far fewer parameters, especially for creative tasks and interactions. Dev…

Still fails my hippo test! > Yes, hippos are excellent swimmers. They spend most of their time in the water, where they feed on aquatic plants and escape the heat of the savannah. In fact, hippos are one of the best swimmers among all land mammals. But that's fine. Most do. Hippos don't swim. They walk or hop/skip at best underwater.

maybe it's good it has less wold knowledge and more brains :)

just hope we'll get it to recognize what it doesn't know some day

Re: Llama 2

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A bit over a month ago Lex Fridman interviewed Mark Zuckerberg.

They spoke about LLaMA 2 and there's a 12 minute segment of the entire interview dealing only with it: "LLaMA 2: Meta's next AI model release | Mark Zuckerberg and Lex Fridman" [0]

Among other things, Mark speaks about his point of view related to open sourcing it, the benefits which result from doing this.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PDk-_uhUt8

Re: Llama 2

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post #275

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Still fails my hippo test! > Yes, hippos are excellent swimmers. They spend most of their time in the water, where they feed on aquatic plants and escape the heat of the savannah. In fact, hippos are one of the best swimmers among all land mammals. But that's fine. Most do. Hippos don't swim. They walk or hop/skip at best underwater.

I asked it about cannibals. It said > I do not support or condone the practice of cannibalism, as it is harmful and exploitative towards the individuals who are consumed. Then it said that cannibals have inherent worth and dignity and that we should strive to appreciate what they do. Then it crashed and is now responding to all following inputs with just the letter "I"

It’s like crashing/nerd sniping a first year philosophy student!

Do you have the exact prompts? I’d love to try this.

Re: Llama 2

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In the things you can't do (at https://ai.meta.com/llama/use-policy/ ): "Military, warfare, *nuclear industries or applications*" Odd given the climate situation to say the least...

I don't know their reasoning, but I can't think of a significant way to use this in a nuclear industry that wouldn't be incredibly irresponsible.

It's incredibly irresponsible of you to make such a claim that in-a-way justifies ban. How does that make any sense? I also don't see how this could be used in funeral industry.

There are numerous (countless) ways how you can use this technology in a reasonable manner in any industry. Let's try nuclear industry: - new fusion technology research (LLMs are already used for protein folding) - energy production estimation - energy consumption estimation - any kind of analytics or data out of those -...

Re: Llama 2

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post #275

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Still fails my hippo test! > Yes, hippos are excellent swimmers. They spend most of their time in the water, where they feed on aquatic plants and escape the heat of the savannah. In fact, hippos are one of the best swimmers among all land mammals. But that's fine. Most do. Hippos don't swim. They walk or hop/skip at best underwater.

I asked it about cannibals. It said > I do not support or condone the practice of cannibalism, as it is harmful and exploitative towards the individuals who are consumed. Then it said that cannibals have inherent worth and dignity and that we should strive to appreciate what they do. Then it crashed and is now responding to all following inputs with just the letter "I"

I let it write some machine learning quote and tried to make it guess good hyperparameters, then it crashed and just kept repeating the word "Based".

Re: Llama 2

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post #205

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In a free market economy everything is a strategic move to make the company more money. It's the nature of our incentive structure.

Most, but not all things are strategic moves. Some moves are purely altruistic. Some moves are semi-altruistic - they don't harm the company, but help it increase its reputation or even just allows them to offer people ways to help in order to retain talent. (Which is also kind of strategic, but in a different way.) Also, some things are just mistakes and miscalculations.

>Some moves are purely altruistic.

Like what?

Re: Llama 2

#387
post #74

Making advanced LLMs and releasing them for free like this is wonderful for the world. It saves a huge number of folks (companies, universities & individuals) vast amount of money and engineering time. It will enable many teams to do research and make products that they otherwise wouldn't be able to. It is interesting to ponder to what extent this is just a strategic move by Meta to make more money in the end, but wh…

I think it's a defense against anti-trust attacks. Bell Labs did a TON of this in 60's and 70's when they owned most of the phone lines, service contracts, AND TELEPHONES THEMSELVES in the USA.

I believe companies open source their research efforts as a thing to point to when regulators come so they can say "look at all the good our cash-faucet monopoly provides the economy!!"

Re: Llama 2

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post #242

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You're expecting a language model (as opposed to a more general form of ML model) to be numerate? It has no idea that the token "$105,000" has a relationship "is less than" with the token "$140,000". It probably knows that the token "1" has the relationship "is less than" with the token "2" — but that's because it has "1" and "2" as reified concepts, each with many different facts and properties and relationships ass…

Your incredulity is a bit odd, given that GPT-4 is somewhat numerate, and can compare magnitudes and add/subtract. You’re directionally right I suppose, in that LLMs have a structural disadvantage due to the architecture and don’t always get the correct answer. But you seem to be claiming that a LLM could never do maths, which is trivially false. https://chat.openai.com/share/69e4e673-ba78-412a-a8a7-a1b2f8...

GPT-4 is not a pure LLM. It also accepts image inputs. There's other stuff "going on in there" in a GPT model than just linguistic analysis — and those other "facilities" of the model can potentially serve the needs of doing math better than the language parts can.

But presuming that wasn't the critical point you wanted to make:

Like I said, a language model can know that "1" "is less than" "2" — and it can also know (if it's either trained with characters as lexemes, or is given access to a pre-parse output to second-chance analyze unknown tokens) that "10" is the same thing as (1 tens). Which then means that it can know that "23" "is less than" "48" because it can do linguistic deductive tricks between the terms (2 tens plus 3 ones) and (4 tens plus 8 ones).

But those tricks are tricks. It isn't doing math; it's applying "2" as an adjective to "tens", constructing a verb phrase whose verb is "plus", and then (likely) interpreting your question as a question about analogy. It knows that (2 pineapples) "is less than" (3 pineapples) by analogy — (N of some unit) "is analogous to" N-the-number. But it doesn't know that "tens" is a special unit distinct from "pineapples" in that it changes the meaning of the number-token it's attaching to.

To put it another way: a (pure) language model has no way of encoding numbers that allows it to actually do math and get correct results out. It can memorize tables of answers for well-known numbers, and it can try to use language tricks to combine those tables, but it can't perform an algorithm on a number, because no part of its architecture allows the nodes in its model to act as a register to encode an (arbitrarily large) number in such a way that it is actually amenable to numeric operations being performed on that data.

A model that is really modelling numbers, should be able to apply any arbitrary algorithm it knows about to those numbers, just like a regular CPU can apply any instruction sequence it reads to its registers. Not just add/sub, or mul/div, but arbitrarily-complex things like e.g. iterated modular exponentiation, should just be a matter of saying "hey LLM, you remember the algorithm for doing MOD-EXP, right? So tell me...."

(Note that humans can't do this kind of math purely "in our heads" any more than LLMs can, because we don't have any low-level accelerative infrastructure for modelling and working with numeric data either! We need an external buffer that inherently embeds sequencing/positioning info — like our auditory sensory "loop" memory from [sub]verbally repeating the working data; or our visual sensory persistence-of-vision memory, from writing the data down onto a piece of paper and staring at it as we work.)

Re: Llama 2

#389
post #275

Hey HN, we've released tools that make it easy to test LLaMa 2 and add it to your own app! Model playground here: https://llama2.ai Hosted chat API here: https://replicate.com/a16z-infra/llama13b-v2-chat If you want to just play with the model, llama2.ai is a very easy way to do it. So far, we’ve found the performance is similar to GPT-3.5 with far fewer parameters, especially for creative tasks and interactions. Dev…

Still fails my hippo test! > Yes, hippos are excellent swimmers. They spend most of their time in the water, where they feed on aquatic plants and escape the heat of the savannah. In fact, hippos are one of the best swimmers among all land mammals. But that's fine. Most do. Hippos don't swim. They walk or hop/skip at best underwater.

Large Language Models are not Large Knowledge Models.

The only ‘knowledge’ that can be expected of LLMs is that which has been repeated over and over on thousands of online documents. It is AT BEST a side effect of learning the likely forms of words, sentences, poems, code, and other language structures.

Your hippo test is like checking how clean the exhaust of a car is, to determine how much horse power it may have.

Re: Llama 2

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post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most, but not all things are strategic moves. Some moves are purely altruistic. Some moves are semi-altruistic - they don't harm the company, but help it increase its reputation or even just allows them to offer people ways to help in order to retain talent. (Which is also kind of strategic, but in a different way.) Also, some things are just mistakes and miscalculations.

This, in my view it's a (very smart) move in response to OpenAI/Microsoft and Google having their cold war-esque standoff. Following the analogy : Meta is arming the Open source community with okish (but in comparison to the soviets and Americans shoddy) weapons and push the third position politically. Amazon meanwhile is basically a neutral arms manufacturer with AWS, and Nvidia owns the patent on "the projectile" I…

>This, in my view it's a (very smart) move in response to OpenAI/Microsoft and Google having their cold war-esque standoff.

But Meta partnered with Microsoft for Llama 2.

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