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Re: Llama 2

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Post by vorpalhex »

amelius wrote: post #306
whimsicalism wrote: post #4

Key detail from release: > If, on the Llama 2 version release date, the monthly active users of the products or services made available by or for Licensee, or Licensee’s affiliates, is greater than 700 million monthly active users in the preceding calendar month, you must request a license from Meta, which Meta may grant to you in its sole discretion, and you are not authorized to exercise any of the rights under thi…

> If, on the Llama 2 version release date, the monthly active users of the products or services made available by or for Licensee, or Licensee’s affiliates, is greater than 700 million monthly active users (...) I suggest we start doing a similar thing for FOSS projects. I.e., it's open source unless you are MegaCorp with profit > $1B, then you have to pay. Sounds fair to me, and might help FOSS to get some better fu…

Then your project would no longer be FOSS.

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Post by Havoc »

whimsicalism wrote: post #4

Key detail from release: > If, on the Llama 2 version release date, the monthly active users of the products or services made available by or for Licensee, or Licensee’s affiliates, is greater than 700 million monthly active users in the preceding calendar month, you must request a license from Meta, which Meta may grant to you in its sole discretion, and you are not authorized to exercise any of the rights under thi…

While not ideal at least the limit set is chunky

Re: Llama 2

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Post by whimsicalism »

PeterStuer wrote: post #258
jahewson wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been hearing “Google has secret better models” for 7 months now. Maybe some UFOs in the hangers at Moffett Field too?

Would you believe OpenAI has vastly better models that they are not releasing publicly?

No

Re: Llama 2

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Post by amelius »

vorpalhex wrote: post #311
amelius wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If, on the Llama 2 version release date, the monthly active users of the products or services made available by or for Licensee, or Licensee’s affiliates, is greater than 700 million monthly active users (...) I suggest we start doing a similar thing for FOSS projects. I.e., it's open source unless you are MegaCorp with profit > $1B, then you have to pay. Sounds fair to me, and might help FOSS to get some better fu…

Then your project would no longer be FOSS.

Depends on what you value more. Strict adherence to some definition someone once made up, or sustainable funding of your project.

If it bothers you, you can call it FOSS* instead.

Re: Llama 2

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Post by Miraste »

cudgy wrote: post #295
Miraste wrote: post #253

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They work (most of the time) in Phoenix and SF because they've mapped every single inch of the cities by now and there are no adverse conditions. It's not scalable.

Why is that not scalable? Mapping out two large cities for an experimental project in a few years seems scalable, expand to new cities over time with additional resources.

I suppose it is, but not in a Silicon Valley way. They could scale to "large Southwestern city taxi service," but it wouldn't earn back the investment or deliver on the hype. If that becomes the ceiling I bet Google will simply shut Waymo down.

If they work out how to deal with, say, New York weather conditions, there's potential, but they don't seem to be any closer.

Re: Llama 2

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Post by tomrod »

wg0 wrote: post #303

The Linux moment of LLMs?

More Unix. They're still trying to control the use by their competitors, and can change the terms of the license per other commenters' readings.

Re: Llama 2

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Post by mike_d »

ingenieroariel wrote: post #228

I filled the form about an hour ago and got the download link 15 mins ago. Download is ongoing. Direct link to request access form: https://ai.meta.com/resources/models-and-libraries/llama-dow... Direct link to request access on Hugging Face (use the same email): https://huggingface.co/meta-llama/Llama-2-70b-chat-hf Direct link to repo: https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama Once you get a link to download on emai…

Is there a torrent link this time?

Re: Llama 2

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Post by pizzapill »

jwr wrote: post #223

Could someone please give us non-practitioners a practical TLDR? Specifically, can I get this packaged somehow into a thing that I can run on my own server to classify my mail as spam or non-spam? Or at least run it as a service with an API that I can connect to? I watch the development of those LLMs with fascination, but still wade through tons of spam on a daily basis. This should be a solved problem by now, and it…

Preface: I`m no expert.

What you are looking at here is a Natural Language Model. They are Chatbots. What you want is a classification model, the typical Spam filter is a Naive Bayes classifier.

If you want to run a Natural Language Model at a meaningful speed and size on your server you probably need a high end consumer graphics card. If you want to run a Natural Language Model that is big you will need high end server graphics cards. The first option is maybe $1k the other $10k.

Re: Llama 2

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Post by pessimizer »

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #139
symlinkk wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Wonderful for the world” = “I can exploit this to make money”

Exploit? I don’t know if this is the right perspective. It’s literally released for commercial use. But also, nothing wrong with making money by building valuable new things.

To exploit means to use.

> “Wonderful for the world” = “I can [use] this to make money”

Doesn't change the meaning (or the bite) of the statement in the slightest.

Re: Llama 2

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Post by jug »

mike_d wrote: post #305
jug wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still fails my hippo test! > Yes, hippos are excellent swimmers. They spend most of their time in the water, where they feed on aquatic plants and escape the heat of the savannah. In fact, hippos are one of the best swimmers among all land mammals. But that's fine. Most do. Hippos don't swim. They walk or hop/skip at best underwater.

You're just being overly pedantic. They hold their breath, fully submerge, control their buoyancy, and propel themselves through water. Also known as swimming.

Nah, this is often not considered swimming in major publications and by zoos.

National Geographic

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/mammals/facts/hip...

> Hippos cannot swim or breathe underwater, and unlike most mammals they are so dense that they cannot float. Instead, they walk or run along the bottom of the riverbed. Because their eyes and nostrils are located on the top of their heads, they can still see and breathe while underwater. When totally submerged, the ears and nostrils shut tight to keep the water out, and hippos can hold their breath for five minutes.

San Diego Zoo

https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/hippo

> Yet despite all these adaptations for life in the water, hippos can't swim—they can't even float! Their bodies are far too dense to float, so they move around by pushing off from the bottom of the river or simply walking along the riverbed in a slow-motion gallop, lightly touching the bottom with their toes, which are slightly webbed, like aquatic ballet dancers.

Also echoed by Cincinnati Zoo and I'm certain many other experts.

But yes, it is maybe pedantic to define swimming!

However, even if you'd be kind to this LLM and say "Alright, sure, it's kinda swimming", it's still wrong in terms of being among particularly good mammal swimmers! This is just flat out wrong no matter how you look at it. They're terrible at it but have evolved to not need to be awesome at this.

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