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Re: Llama 2

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Post by villgax »

whimsicalism wrote: post #4

Key detail from release: > If, on the Llama 2 version release date, the monthly active users of the products or services made available by or for Licensee, or Licensee’s affiliates, is greater than 700 million monthly active users in the preceding calendar month, you must request a license from Meta, which Meta may grant to you in its sole discretion, and you are not authorized to exercise any of the rights under thi…

You will not use the Llama Materials or any output or results of the Llama Materials to improve any other large language model (excluding Llama 2 or derivative works thereof).

Re: Llama 2

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Post by rajko_rad »

swyx wrote: post #69
rajko_rad wrote: post #18

Hey HN, we've released tools that make it easy to test LLaMa 2 and add it to your own app! Model playground here: https://llama2.ai Hosted chat API here: https://replicate.com/a16z-infra/llama13b-v2-chat If you want to just play with the model, llama2.ai is a very easy way to do it. So far, we’ve found the performance is similar to GPT-3.5 with far fewer parameters, especially for creative tasks and interactions. Dev…

its not clear but can we also download the model with this Llama v2 Cog thing? EDIT: Meta is being extremely prompt, just got sent the download instructions https://twitter.com/swyx/status/1681351712718876673 also is it now Llama or LLaMA since the website says Llama? lol

the cog template is just starter code to make it super simple to deploy llama-v2 on any infrastructure of your choosing!

More about cog https://github.com/replicate/cog

Our thinking was just that a bunch of folks will want to fine-tune right away, then deploy the fine-tunes, so trying to make that easy... Or even just deploy the models-as-is on their own infra without dealing with CUDA insanity!

Re: Llama 2

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Post by sebzim4500 »

derefr wrote: post #242
herpderperator wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...is this supposed to make sense? https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5j0mtwdrqm08dxbh84hh6/Screen-...

You're expecting a language model (as opposed to a more general form of ML model) to be numerate? It has no idea that the token "$105,000" has a relationship "is less than" with the token "$140,000". It probably knows that the token "1" has the relationship "is less than" with the token "2" — but that's because it has "1" and "2" as reified concepts, each with many different facts and properties and relationships ass…

The problem with this kind of simplistic analysis is that if you ask llama which of those numbers is larger it will of course get it right.

Clearly there is some understanding of the relative size of numbers, since it can compare numbers that could not possibly have been in the training set.

Re: Llama 2

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Post by freedomben »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #244
unshavedyak wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best charity is one that benefits both parties, no?

That's just a trade. If we assume "charity" is "altruism," then by definition there must be no benefit to the giver.

I don't think that's even possible, but if it was it would be a disaster because humans don't work that way. We respond to incentive. When giving to charity, the incentive can be as simple as "I feel good" but it's still an incentive.

Re: Llama 2

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Post by arkano »

rajko_rad wrote: post #18

Hey HN, we've released tools that make it easy to test LLaMa 2 and add it to your own app! Model playground here: https://llama2.ai Hosted chat API here: https://replicate.com/a16z-infra/llama13b-v2-chat If you want to just play with the model, llama2.ai is a very easy way to do it. So far, we’ve found the performance is similar to GPT-3.5 with far fewer parameters, especially for creative tasks and interactions. Dev…

I appreciate that the playground frontend is just a streamlit app.

Re: Llama 2

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Post by villgax »

RobotToaster wrote: post #41

Another AI model pretending to be open source, when it's licence violates point 5 and 6 of the open source definition.

Exactly- You will not use the Llama Materials or any output or results of the Llama Materials to improve any other large language model (excluding Llama 2 or derivative works thereof).

Re: Llama 2

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Post by jefftk »

matt_holden wrote: post #236
dooraven wrote: post #37

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> Google's model is not as capable as llama-derived models, so I think they would actually benefit from this. Google's publically available model isn't as capable. But they certainly have models that are far better already in house.

Comments like this remind me of the old-timers from IBM saying "but wait, we invented the PC! and the cloud! and..." Gotta put products in the market, or it didn't happen...

It's fine not to give them public credit for in-house only things, but in this subthread we're speculating about whether Llama 2 would be useful to them, which does depend heavily on the quality of their internal models.

Re: Llama 2

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Post by jstummbillig »

andrelaszlo wrote: post #255

llama2.ai seems to hallucinate quite a lot. Q: Can you list all even prime numbers less than or equal to 59? A: Sure! The even prime numbers less than or equal to 59 are: 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32, 34, 36, 38, 40, 42, 44, 46, 48, and 50. Is there something else I can help you with? Q: Who is [random name]? A: [name] is a computer scientist and entrepreneur who is known for his work in…

Wait, did you actually write "[random name]"?

Re: Llama 2

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Post by theptip »

derefr wrote: post #242
herpderperator wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...is this supposed to make sense? https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5j0mtwdrqm08dxbh84hh6/Screen-...

You're expecting a language model (as opposed to a more general form of ML model) to be numerate? It has no idea that the token "$105,000" has a relationship "is less than" with the token "$140,000". It probably knows that the token "1" has the relationship "is less than" with the token "2" — but that's because it has "1" and "2" as reified concepts, each with many different facts and properties and relationships ass…

Your incredulity is a bit odd, given that GPT-4 is somewhat numerate, and can compare magnitudes and add/subtract.

You’re directionally right I suppose, in that LLMs have a structural disadvantage due to the architecture and don’t always get the correct answer. But you seem to be claiming that a LLM could never do maths, which is trivially false.

https://chat.openai.com/share/69e4e673-ba78-412a-a8a7-a1b2f8...

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