Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

community.frame.work

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 104 posts

Re: Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

#21

Post by syntaxing »

Thoeu388 wrote: post #18

> The back two slots on each side can take up to 240W power input over USB-C using USB-PD 3.1. I would like an option for normal barrel jack power connector. I found USB-C power delivery very unreliable and not universal. For many applications (Pi4, Rock5) you are limited to original makers power adapter. Framework in this case is using very new PD spec to deliver 180W, so I assume it will be the same. There is also…

I strongly disagree with this. I purposely do not buy anything that’s not USB-C or lightning because I like being able to bring one charger for everything. Do you have older version of the RPi4? They accidentally made the USB-C non compliant but was fixed in late 2018, early 2019. Overall, as long as you have a 100W USB-C cable, you can practically charge anything (minus the now 240W standard).

Re: Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

#22

Post by nrp »

mschild wrote: post #17

Maybe someone from framework or knowledge of this area can explain this, but I'm a bit baffled by the price difference between the prebuilt and DIY editions. LinusTechTips recently did a tour of one of the assembly stations in Taiwan. The DIY editions are fully assembled, tested, then disassembled, and put into packages. Considering that DIY has an additional labour intensive step, how come they're so much cheaper? S…

The DIY Edition price is without memory, storage, and operating system, which are included in the pre-built versions.

The memory, storage, bezel, and Input Cover that are temporarily installed into DIY Edition systems get cycled back through the line at the factory and reused repeatedly. If you order memory and storage as part of a DIY Edition configuration, those are new modules specific to your order that get added to the package at our fulfillment center. This means that we can enable thousands of different orderable DIY Edition configurations while only having a handful of unique configurations leaving the factory.

Re: Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

#23

Post by aidenn0 »

mschild wrote: post #17

Maybe someone from framework or knowledge of this area can explain this, but I'm a bit baffled by the price difference between the prebuilt and DIY editions. LinusTechTips recently did a tour of one of the assembly stations in Taiwan. The DIY editions are fully assembled, tested, then disassembled, and put into packages. Considering that DIY has an additional labour intensive step, how come they're so much cheaper? S…

DIY comes with no RAM, storage, or OS.

Re: Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

#25

Post by happy-dude »

neilv wrote: post #6

If they get a keyboard option with proper TrackPoint (including the design and positioning of the buttons), they can convert some ThinkPad devotees.

System76's next flagship, "Virgo," will be in-house designed and has a trackpoint keyboard with a layout will be similar to their line of Launch keyboards [1].

They've been teasing their Virgo prototype [2] [3] [4] on their social media feeds.

[1] https://system76.com/accessories/launch

[2] https://fosstodon.org/@carlrichell/110571781656976874

[3] https://fosstodon.org/@soller/110442466523846236

[4] https://fosstodon.org/@carlrichell/110435594412453909

Re: Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

#26

Post by nrp »

xkcd-sucks wrote: post #14

Is S3 idle / suspend to RAM supported on this? Will buy it in a heartbeat if yes

Neither Intel nor AMD officially support S3 on their recent CPU generations. Unofficially, S3 functionality has continued to degrade over time. On the positive side though, s0ix continues to improve for both Intel and AMD.

Re: Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

#28

Post by zmk5 »

ceearrbee wrote: post #19
trashcanman wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No compare it to the MBA 15 w 512GB SSD and 16GB RAM upgrades and the 70W charger from their educational store + $150 gift card offer. $1575 inc Cali tax

Are they not referring to the default price which is available to all? Adding all those situational discounts is not a fair comparison since it requires a very specific set of circumstances to achieve it.

Yeah I was just referring to default prices. The only one I modified was the comparison to the Overkill system because the base Apple configuration does not have 32GB of RAM and 1TB SSD.

Re: Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

#29

Post by smusamashah »

I was looking for pre-orders to open expecting there will be an Nvidia GPU option too (for gaming + stable diffusion image generation etc).

This has AMD Processor with integrated graphics only. I have never used a computer with AMD processors, will it be able to use Nvidia GPU later at all?

Re: Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open

#30

Post by CarVac »

smusamashah wrote: post #29

I was looking for pre-orders to open expecting there will be an Nvidia GPU option too (for gaming + stable diffusion image generation etc). This has AMD Processor with integrated graphics only. I have never used a computer with AMD processors, will it be able to use Nvidia GPU later at all?

It has an option for a discrete AMD GPU.

No word on other vendors' GPUs—yet.

Post reply on HN