Apple releases Ipad 3 • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by mark_l_watson » Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 9:31 PM UTC

Aloisius wrote: post #10

It should be noted that the limited data plans for both AT&T and Verizon mean that at the max 4G speed of 73 Mbps, you could use all your bandwidth for the entire month in less than three and a half minutes (2 GB plan). The overages of $10/GB per month on both services mean once you go over your plan, you'll be looking at a little over $5/minute in new charges. It is possible (though highly unlikely) to rack up over…

Don't most people, really, use iPads over wifi? Or am I just one of the cheapskates who bought one without 3G or 4G support?

I bought an iPad 2 last year and I didn't even consider buying one with a data plan. I am near wifi about 99% of the time, discounting driving, hiking, and airplane time. In a pinch, I can check email on my Droid.

Eventually 4G will become inexpensive, but it isn't right now.

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by Confusion » Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 9:31 PM UTC

joejohnson wrote: post #106

Xuzz wrote: post #3

Although the HN title (currently) says "Ipad 3", Apple seems to actually be calling it the new "iPad" (edit: "new iPad", not "New iPad"). It's a bit confusing: next year, is it then the "old iPad"? But, we don't really have that issue with many other Apple products (iPod nano, all Macs, etc) that use the same naming scheme. So we'll see how bad it actually ends up.

I think it's just called the iPad. Right now it's new, so they're referring to it as the "new iPad". This naming convention is simpler that appending a hardware version number to the name at each refresh. Also, it's what Apple currently does with most of their other product lines. It's the MacBook Pro, not the MacBook Pro 3. The iPods were always called just that, an iPod. People referred to them as the nth generatio…

Macbooks are versioned. The versions people refer to are 'mid 2007', 'late 2008', etc.

iPods are also versioned. People refer to their '4G iPod shuffle' or their '2G iPod touch'

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by jiggy2011 » Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 9:32 PM UTC

I wonder what the implications of this will be for web design?

A website built with a fixed with 1000 pixel design is suddenly going to look pretty silly on a new ipad.

Of course if you design around large resolutions you will marginalize those with standard displays.

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by rjurney » Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 9:33 PM UTC

mark_l_watson wrote: post #161

Aloisius wrote: post #10

It should be noted that the limited data plans for both AT&T and Verizon mean that at the max 4G speed of 73 Mbps, you could use all your bandwidth for the entire month in less than three and a half minutes (2 GB plan). The overages of $10/GB per month on both services mean once you go over your plan, you'll be looking at a little over $5/minute in new charges. It is possible (though highly unlikely) to rack up over…

Don't most people, really, use iPads over wifi? Or am I just one of the cheapskates who bought one without 3G or 4G support? I bought an iPad 2 last year and I didn't even consider buying one with a data plan. I am near wifi about 99% of the time, discounting driving, hiking, and airplane time. In a pinch, I can check email on my Droid. Eventually 4G will become inexpensive, but it isn't right now.

I rely on the 'always on' internet connection that 3G provides me. When I need to look something up, I don't even think about wifi. I just look it up. There is value in that.

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Post by jiggy2011 » Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 9:34 PM UTC

k-mcgrady wrote: post #142

jiggy2011 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if the next step for Apple is to use their cash reserves to buy a carrier then of course all of their devices will be restricted to it.

Not really possible. If they were going to restrict their devices to their own carrier they would need a presence in most countries in the world. For Apple to buy a big carrier in every country they operate would be costly and stupid (it would be difficult to manage carriers all over the world when they just want to produce hardware and software).

Not in one fell swoop. They could get a carrier in the US to begin with while competing with other carriers.

Once they had a critial mass they could release some new device and restrict initially just that one to their network.

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by justincormack » Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 9:38 PM UTC

gnaffle wrote: post #129

guelo wrote: post #60

The world of LCD panels baffles me. For some reason Apple can sell an iPad with a 2048x1536 IPS screen for $500 but your average $1,000 laptop comes with a crappy 1366x768 TFT screen or maybe 1920x1080 if you're lucky.

I think the biggest issue is simply thet desktop operating systems doesn't have good resolution independence. So for most people, a laptop display with more than 1920x1080 will make icons and buttons very small by default. And of course, most people (and businesses) don't care either way and don't want to pay for the price difference.

True. Not even the ones made by Apple. Even after 10 years of shrinking desktop feature sizes. Clearly there is much more money to be made in tablets and mobile than laptops...

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by baconner » Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 9:39 PM UTC

tomkinstinch wrote: post #23

The 264dpi screen is a big deal. I was at a workshop with Edward Tufte this week. He extoled the virtures of using paper for information-rich data transfer. Having paper-like screen resolution is an obvious advantage for disseminating information. I'd like to see a startup take on PowerPoint by releasing software to compose iPad-friendly presentations. Think one-pagers full of text, graphs, and figures. On an iPad th…

There are quite a few bi tools that do pretty much what you're describing on the ipad and other mobile devices now. Share a link, pulls up an interactive dashboard for everyone that they can play with and discuss in the meeting. Many also let you build a slide deck in PowerPoint with interactive dashboards on each slide.

Now if you could have the ppt (or whatever) allow attendees to collaboratively interact with the current dashboard slide then you'd really have something.

Maybe I should get to work on that!

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by leeoniya » Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 9:40 PM UTC

leeoniya wrote: post #157

so Apple ditches Flash for HTML5, but requires Quicktime to play the Retina tech video? http://www.apple.com/ipad/features/

yo dawg! we used quicktime to showcase your iPad3 so you can use apple proprietary tech while you watch apple proprietary tech.

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 9:42 PM UTC

veyron wrote: post #149

ugh wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not really sure why you are angry at the carriers. Knowing about the limits and how much you need is kinda your job. I know that I need at least half a terabyte per month when I’m using my laptop and I know to always check how much bandwidth I can get from the carriers. Your responsibility.

What are your thoughts about AT&T crippling unlimited data customers going over a specified limit (iirc 3GB)?

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Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by losvedir » Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 9:42 PM UTC

WiseWeasel wrote: post #30

Xuzz wrote: post #3

Although the HN title (currently) says "Ipad 3", Apple seems to actually be calling it the new "iPad" (edit: "new iPad", not "New iPad"). It's a bit confusing: next year, is it then the "old iPad"? But, we don't really have that issue with many other Apple products (iPod nano, all Macs, etc) that use the same naming scheme. So we'll see how bad it actually ends up.

It looks like they're just calling it "iPad" now on their website. It's an interesting idea; maybe they plan on always calling the current one "iPad", and renaming the old model something like "iPad 2012" once the 2013 "iPad" is released.

It's what they've always done. The "iPad 2" was always officially just called the "iPad" as well. My friend won one in a raffle, and we scoured the box looking at whether it was the new "iPad 2" or not. It never mentioned the "2" anywhere, but we eventually realized from the device's shape that it was the 2.