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The PoWeR technique: a strategic approach to self-discipline

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Re: The PoWeR technique: a strategic approach to self-discipline

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Post by username135 »

rcarr wrote: post #13
username135 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

10000 of anything is just key wording to allude to being a 'master' at something since that number was arbitrarily used to determine who or who is not an expert.

It was referring to hours of practice so 10,000 hours made you a master but what the fuck constitutes 10,000 learning cycles of self discipline? Has he spent 10,000 hours sat in meditation like a monk? I highly doubt it. It’s nonsense the author is using to try and give himself some credibility. He also links to a blog post describing his “somewhat hardcore work routine” and how adhd is his “superpower”. It’s a hard…

Ya, I was referring to the book Outliers. When ever I here someone mention 10k of anything related to mastery or skill I assume they're parroting that book

Re: The PoWeR technique: a strategic approach to self-discipline

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Post by rcarr »

dang wrote: post #39
rcarr wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I have edit permissions restored so I can rewrite it to be less inflammatory? I was harsh because I've wasted a lot of my time on this stuff which I'd rather help others avoid - I went into this in a reply to the author in the comment thread for context. For what it's worth I would reword it as: If you become aware that you’re scared, stressed or overactive and distracted, do some 4-4-4-4 box method breathing unt…

Sure! I've reopened the edit window so you can change it how you want. (and I hear you about the conversation downthread - I didn't see that earlier)

On second thought can we leave it up, as then anyone who sees the thread has a good example of an inflammatory comment and how to rewrite it to be more in keeping with the spirit of the site? If not then I will go back and change it.

Re: The PoWeR technique: a strategic approach to self-discipline

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Post by dang »

rcarr wrote: post #44
dang wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure! I've reopened the edit window so you can change it how you want. (and I hear you about the conversation downthread - I didn't see that earlier)

On second thought can we leave it up, as then anyone who sees the thread has a good example of an inflammatory comment and how to rewrite it to be more in keeping with the spirit of the site? If not then I will go back and change it.

Sure, no problem.

Re: The PoWeR technique: a strategic approach to self-discipline

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Post by throwaway7868 »

Aside from some trick (as in the article) of using the breath to momentarily affect the amygdala, I believe the general emerging rule is to pause, in response to a temptation, just long enough to call to mind a preferable/practical alternative. I've seen this characterized as "you only need a moment of willpower".

Re: The PoWeR technique: a strategic approach to self-discipline

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Post by SnowdustDev »

rcarr wrote: post #44
dang wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure! I've reopened the edit window so you can change it how you want. (and I hear you about the conversation downthread - I didn't see that earlier)

On second thought can we leave it up, as then anyone who sees the thread has a good example of an inflammatory comment and how to rewrite it to be more in keeping with the spirit of the site? If not then I will go back and change it.

Just a note that I found this thread valuable :), offering to keep that comment was a good idea.

Re: The PoWeR technique: a strategic approach to self-discipline

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Post by euazOn »

anyoneamous wrote: post #15
0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never heard of it, but according to random website [0]. > Box breathing—also known as square breathing and 4-4-4-4 breathing—is a breathwork first popularized by Navy SEALs who used it to quickly sharpen concentration and enhance alertness. It requires inhaling for four counts, holding your breath for four counts, exhaling for four counts, and then holding your breath again for four counts. [0] https://www.mindbodygr…

It's quite relaxing, but I get the impression that's because your mind is filled with "Count to 4"/"Blarg my nose is stuffy"/"Jesus why is holding my breath for 4 seconds so hard"/"Wow I actually have to push to empty my lungs in 4 seconds"/etc

Haha, you have forever ruined box breathing for me, from now on I will only think about those things :)

Re: The PoWeR technique: a strategic approach to self-discipline

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Post by Aerbil313 »

Thoeu388 wrote: post #19

It is question of motivation. Motivation uses logical forebrain, best way is to take thinking out of equation. - marshmallow test is invalid, if kids do not trust adult. It would not work on kids from rough neighbourhood, who would get second marshmallow stollen. Single marshmallow is logical choice in this case. Apply that on savings and inflation... - if phone alarm does not wake you up, use lamp with timer. 10000…

The case of smartphones is unique. There is a war waged by corporations with hundreds of thousands of employees to take the most of your attention out from you (for sweet ad money), with attention engineers working on new designs and innovations all the time. I don't think that is a battle %95 of people can win. Just look around to people. I avoid fighting the battle by making heavy use of screen time features to ban all un-absolutely-necessary features (apps, websites) and whitelist only a small amount of apps and websites. And I make those restrictions unchangeable by myself, otherwise it becomes pointless.

Re: The PoWeR technique: a strategic approach to self-discipline

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Post by Aerbil313 »

QuantumG wrote: post #20

Some of the best advice I've heard from alcoholics who got sober is: if you can have two drinks and then stop, you don't have a drinking problem. Similarly for self-control: if you have enough patience to read this comment, you don't have a self-control problem. Don't get sober for fun, it's no fun.

What do you mean? Soberity is indeed not fun, it's just more peaceful and not miserable.
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