One missing criterion: allow purchasing without Windows pre-installed, and thus with a slightly reduced price. I resent that all new "Windows-default" PCs include the OS (presumably driving up the price) which I am going to immediately erase.
The Perfect Laptop
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#142>excellent build quality I keep hearing this, also for phones, and people usually associate it with certain materials. Why? I'd rather have a light plastic laptop/phone that works well, is light, and survives a few hits than an overpriced piece of fashion. Bonus points for phones with cracked backs because glass "feels more valuable". Of course I understand the value of e.g. good hinges, keyboards etc., but pretty su…
> pretty sure that's not what people are generally referring to.
What makes you think that? That's what I (and I assume others) are referring to. I.E. actual practical quality of the build.
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#143> another Apple can’t put my finger on why this is so much better than everyone else things Once you’ve used a Mac touchpad, it’s impossible to go back to a Windows/Linux laptop. I’ve tried…
I assure you that's not true
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#144Recently I started looking for simple-as-possible, usually business laptops that have a certain level on each end (performance, weight/size, connectors etc.). However, they usually end up having some fancy feature I did not want, and it ends up making the experience worse. Examples are HP Sure View (it makes for a terrible viewing angle stability even when disabled), or some fancy huge MSI touchpad that doesn't quite work with Linux (no palm detection, which is detrimental).
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#145> another Apple can’t put my finger on why this is so much better than everyone else things Once you’ve used a Mac touchpad, it’s impossible to go back to a Windows/Linux laptop. I’ve tried…
> can’t put my finger on why this is so much better than everyone else Because it doesn't move. When you press down on an Apple touchpad, it doesn't displace at all, it vibrates . This gives you an identical touch response across the entire trackpad, plus nifty things like Force Touch and customizable response intensity. Nobody else has done it, and it makes every other touchpad feel awful.
There's a company called Sensel that makes vibrating trackpads similar to Apple's, Lenovo has been putting them in some of their Thinkpad laptops. https://sensel.com/
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm just surprised that people feel so passionately about touchpads/trackpads. Apple can have the best one, sure, I believe it. But they still are bad pointing devices as a type of pointing device. People have gotten used to them, because what else can you really fit into a laptop?
It's not a bad pointing device, that's the thing. I can use a Mac with a trackpad for pretty much anything, including image editing. It's precise, doesn't do ghost clicks/taps, and it's BIG I never found a non-Mac with a trackpad I could use _at all_. I always need a mouse to use my windows laptop...
Yeah try playing doom
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm just surprised that people feel so passionately about touchpads/trackpads. Apple can have the best one, sure, I believe it. But they still are bad pointing devices as a type of pointing device. People have gotten used to them, because what else can you really fit into a laptop?
It's not a bad pointing device, that's the thing. I can use a Mac with a trackpad for pretty much anything, including image editing. It's precise, doesn't do ghost clicks/taps, and it's BIG I never found a non-Mac with a trackpad I could use _at all_. I always need a mouse to use my windows laptop...
These days, even mice annoy me. Trackball or bust.
Trackpads are better than touchscreen interfaces though.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm just surprised that people feel so passionately about touchpads/trackpads. Apple can have the best one, sure, I believe it. But they still are bad pointing devices as a type of pointing device. People have gotten used to them, because what else can you really fit into a laptop?
It's not a bad pointing device, that's the thing. I can use a Mac with a trackpad for pretty much anything, including image editing. It's precise, doesn't do ghost clicks/taps, and it's BIG I never found a non-Mac with a trackpad I could use _at all_. I always need a mouse to use my windows laptop...
The only time I reach for a mouse on my mac is for gaming. It just doesn't feel necessary or helpful otherwise, even when using at a desk with plenty of room.
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#149>excellent build quality I keep hearing this, also for phones, and people usually associate it with certain materials. Why? I'd rather have a light plastic laptop/phone that works well, is light, and survives a few hits than an overpriced piece of fashion. Bonus points for phones with cracked backs because glass "feels more valuable". Of course I understand the value of e.g. good hinges, keyboards etc., but pretty su…
I agree. TBH, I've been really happy with the build quality of the Lenovo P1. It isn't the prettiest design, but it is solid.
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#150> another Apple can’t put my finger on why this is so much better than everyone else things Once you’ve used a Mac touchpad, it’s impossible to go back to a Windows/Linux laptop. I’ve tried…
I've very happily left a Mac touchpad. Not once but twice. While the gesture support in the OS is nice, I don't like how big the touchpads are. I feel like it regularly gets in the way of typing. I'm okay with the size of the trackpad on the Framework laptop, but it could have been smaller. I really miss my old Thinkpad trackpad with the physical buttons between the trackpad and spacebar, which I felt was really usab…
For me it’s not about how big it is. The MacBook trackpads feel very precise. I rarely mis-click a part of my screen because my cursor drifted too far.