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Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves

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Locks are often intentionally omitted from equipment in environments where high availability is prioritized. They are also often omitted in locations where physical security is provided at a broader level.

Sure, let's intentionally omit locks from equipment that is designed not to fall into enemy hands. Let's not have a kill switch, either. Sure, makes sense for an agency with more money to spend than every corporation in America!

> Sure, let's intentionally omit locks from equipment that is designed not to fall into enemy hands.

Slow down there with the sarcasm and think about the actual requirements or use-cases first. Your average operable military vehicle is in one of three situations:

1. Actively occupied or guarded from theft by current owners/operators with guns who will not tolerate strangers getting close.

2. Parked somewhere in the middle of a whole bunch of people who are generally guarding the whole area, and those people may need to be able to operate it very quickly.

3. In some long-term storage which is well-fenced, under surveillance, guarded by people with guns, and typically very far from both overt enemies and opportunistic thieves.

So there's already an access control system tuned to a particular set of needs... and one of those needs includes "using it to escape from something dangerous even if the prior-driver and everything in their pockets got vaporized."

Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves

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1.2 million grant for this? Now I’ve seen grift, but come on. I want to hire their grant writer. Literally a relay in the starter lead. This looks like one of my afternoon projects, and I’m not even joking. I have a 1990s montero diesel and it leaks power, and I often forget to disconnect the terminal. So I bought a relay from AliExpress (same one shown in this photo but one size up) and hooked it up with an esp32 an…

Not sure about the details of this particular grant, but with federal grants usually you don't get a million dollar check to develop your idea. The money is divided in phases each requiring a set of milestones to be completed, reviewed and approved for you to have access to more resources. The total grant may be a million, but you may first get 100K and 6 months to show a working version then the next phase if approved gives you 200K more and so on.

Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves

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post #164

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Locks are often intentionally omitted from equipment in environments where high availability is prioritized. They are also often omitted in locations where physical security is provided at a broader level.

Sure, let's intentionally omit locks from equipment that is designed not to fall into enemy hands. Let's not have a kill switch, either. Sure, makes sense for an agency with more money to spend than every corporation in America!

My guy, I believe the enemy already knows about our WWII-era "large truck" technology. It's fine.

You don't want either of those things in a widely used military vehicle. Soldiers do not need to die because they're fumbling and dropping keys under fire. They also don't need their truck dying in the middle of a maneuver because the kill switch accidentally went off.

Also, in war, trucks will be getting destroyed left and right. It'll literally be a rounding error.

Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves

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I knew someone with a shitty pickup truck where he wired a light switch into the fuel pump and hid it under the steering column. The truck would be stolen something like 5 times a year and every time he would find it abandoned a km or so away when the gas in the line ran out. I drove in it once to get lunch and near the beginning the car begins sputtering and he's like, "oh right, you're thirsty" and reached under an…

In one of my old cars I reach down under the dash and partially unplug the clutch switch. Prevents any starting because the car thinks you've forgotten to press the clutch in. You'd need to know that one connector is a bit too far out, super stealth.

Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves

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post #141

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>Pizza robot truck startup Stellar snags $16.5M from Jay-Z https://www.restaurantdive.com/news/Stellar-pizza-robot-truc... >Stellar, which was founded by former SpaceX employees in 2019, uses a robot to cook mobile ordered pizzas which are then delivered by the truck driver.

That's nowhere near the $445M claimed though. Crunchbase lists them as having only having raised $25.5M. The $445M if real, must be the valuation. https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/steller-pizza edit: looks I'm looking at the wrong company, see replies for details

Also, the vehicles have a human driver rather than being self-driving.

Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves

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> They are illegal to purchase (in most places), I would not know, where to start looking. amazon. Not much of an investment needed https://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Steel-20-School-Toolbox/dp/...

Not avaiable. (at least for me from germany)

If you're interested they're also available on Amazon.de https://www.amazon.de/LockCowboy-Transparent-Practice-Beginn...

Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves

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post #169

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This is a frustrating yet common sort of take. Yes, this is simple, as the article clearly points out. Yes it is obvious in retrospect. But did you do anything with your brilliant work besides bodge your terrible car a few more miles down the road? There is value to developing the entire system... to ensuring the keypad mechanism is reasonably robust and tamper proof. There is value to understanding the vehicle as a…

No, really, good for them. But don’t be talking down on my car. That’s just not cool. That beast is the workhorse of the farm and it gets the job done. None of the windows roll down though and it’s hot as hell inside, so it discourages unnecessary use, saving the planet. It rarely sees pavement but it drags what needs to be dragged and it pulls the utility rigs out after they deliver to us.

1 line barely acknowledging the criticism, 4 lines defending the car whose feelings I can assume have been mortally wounded. The defensiveness around the car is ironic given how casually you threw out your needlessly negative hot-take.

Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves

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"Today, your house keys are basically useless for security" They are not useless. Only some people have the skills and tools to open them - so they are useful at keeping most people out, even though they don't provide perfect protection. Most thieves are not professionals, but for example junkies who look for something easy. A simple automatic light, is already doing wonders to keep them away.

Raking house locks is a) not difficult and b) not expensive. You don't need to be a professional to do that. But also, bricks through windows are equally not difficult and not expensive, though they do leave a bit more evidence. When my neighbors have been burgled, this is the preferred method of entry I've seen.

It's funny, I have the opposite problem. I have a particular door lock for which three different locksmiths have all failed to cut usable keys. The originals work fine, but the copies don't. The last set barely works, if you wiggle it around a lot and ram to get it in, but then it gets stuck in there and is nearly impossible to remove.

They've tried various blanks, and I've never gotten a satisfactory explanation from any of them. It's possible all my local locksmiths are inexpert.

Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves

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post #141

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>Pizza robot truck startup Stellar snags $16.5M from Jay-Z https://www.restaurantdive.com/news/Stellar-pizza-robot-truc... >Stellar, which was founded by former SpaceX employees in 2019, uses a robot to cook mobile ordered pizzas which are then delivered by the truck driver.

That's nowhere near the $445M claimed though. Crunchbase lists them as having only having raised $25.5M. The $445M if real, must be the valuation. https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/steller-pizza edit: looks I'm looking at the wrong company, see replies for details

The $445M figure is for another mobile pizza startup, Zume.

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/12/softbank-pizza-robot-shuts-...

Discussed last month: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36293636

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