drive a manual - it's an inherent anti theft device
No such thing as a manual EV
A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves
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Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves
#52This is a very engineering solution to a very not-engineering problem. Would this deter thieves? Possibly! Would thieves eventually be able to work around it? Also probably! Would it increase the friction of getting in and driving? Definitely! Today, your house keys are basically useless for security -- getting into your house is trivially easy both destructively and not. But we all use house keys because they feel s…
> This is a very engineering solution to a very not-engineering problem.
True, the solution very obviously to reduce poverty. It's a social problem, not an engineering nor a policing problem.
Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves
#53This is a very engineering solution to a very not-engineering problem. Would this deter thieves? Possibly! Would thieves eventually be able to work around it? Also probably! Would it increase the friction of getting in and driving? Definitely! Today, your house keys are basically useless for security -- getting into your house is trivially easy both destructively and not. But we all use house keys because they feel s…
"Today, your house keys are basically useless for security"
They are not useless. Only some people have the skills and tools to open them - so they are useful at keeping most people out, even though they don't provide perfect protection.
Most thieves are not professionals, but for example junkies who look for something easy. A simple automatic light, is already doing wonders to keep them away.
Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves
#54Own a manual?
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#55Classic man in the middle attack can be easily dealt with PKI. Why go through such a hassle?
Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves
#56Couldn't they just make the car blare non-stop alternating sirens for 10 minutes at a time, 4 times an hour for 12 hours, loud enough to get through drywall and double-paned windows, at the slightest perturbation?
Although I don't own a car, I'm happy when I hear throughout the day and night that my neighbor's cars are well protected.
Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves
#57drive a manual - it's an inherent anti theft device
Not in Europe.
Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves
#58I knew someone with a shitty pickup truck where he wired a light switch into the fuel pump and hid it under the steering column. The truck would be stolen something like 5 times a year and every time he would find it abandoned a km or so away when the gas in the line ran out. I drove in it once to get lunch and near the beginning the car begins sputtering and he's like, "oh right, you're thirsty" and reached under an…
My car in high school had a similar system. The radiator fan didn't turn on automatically, so my dad wired it directly into the AC controller. (The AC also did not work. It was not a great car.)
If you got in the car, and did not specifically turn the AC to the correct setting, the car would overheat about a mile down the road.
Luckily for me, I never had a chance to put this into practice, because nobody stole my car. Unluckily for me, there were several times where I forgot that I had to do this, and my car overheated about a mile down the road.
Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. What's even worse is that it takes a huge research grant to come up with this. > With a new $1.2 million dollar grant from the National Science Foundation...
That amount of money is absolutely nothing compared to the waste that goes on in the startup industry. Remember the $445 million self driving pizza oven delivery van?
> Remember the $445 million self driving pizza oven delivery van?
What I find hilarious about our industry is that this could be completely made up ... or not.
Re: A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves
#60I knew someone with a shitty pickup truck where he wired a light switch into the fuel pump and hid it under the steering column. The truck would be stolen something like 5 times a year and every time he would find it abandoned a km or so away when the gas in the line ran out. I drove in it once to get lunch and near the beginning the car begins sputtering and he's like, "oh right, you're thirsty" and reached under an…
I did similar, except wired into the ignition circuit and with the control being a little cheap ebay RFID thing with the sensor on the underside of the dash. I kept a little RFID tag on my keys, chuck my keys up onto the dash when i'm ready to go and the truck is started with a pushbutton. I also put a cheater switch in the glove box in case i forgot my RFID tags. In my case it was motivated more by maintenance heada…
Hey! How do you know how to do that? Nobody can start this car but me, butthead!