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Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by ngcc_hk » Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 5:37 AM UTC

emgeee wrote: post #206

13of40 wrote: post #194

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I think it might be a little more nuanced than that. I have a friend who's still alive today because he was driving a Lexus SUV when a Honda Accord blew through a red light and collided with him at speed. Should he downgrade his car so he's more vulnerable next time?

Tragedy of the commons situation, only way out is through regulation

In general there are many way out.

Open source in IT area is one of the possible exist. Carbon tax is also market solution. …

How about producing one using e in USA. Or …

Regulation meant what and how … it may be necessary. It may need to over-regulate. And who regulate the regulator. Abd how about agency problem.

Mix solution … if it is an easy situation you may not know there is a problem usually.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by AnthonyMouse » Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 5:37 AM UTC

namdnay wrote: post #239

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #229

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> Technically it's a drain on society's safety nets. The solution to this is to replace safety nets with transfer payments. Don't provide people with healthcare, provide them with money with which they can buy healthcare or insurance. This also stops the subsidy from ratcheting up the cost of the thing, because if you can drive 30 minutes out of your way to save a thousand dollars you do it, but if the government is…

> This also stops the subsidy from ratcheting up the cost of the thing, because if you can drive 30 minutes out of your way to save a thousand dollars you do it, but if the government is paying either way then you don't. If the government is paying, why would it be cheaper 30 minutes away? One of the main features of single payer systems is that the single payer can impose a price list, and control any “ratcheting of…

A price list is a price control. Then no one has any incentive to lower the price beyond that so there is no price competition.

If they set the price too low, you get shortages or long queues or sacrifice quality and no one can do better because that would require charging more, which isn't allowed.

If they set the price too high they're overpaying, which is what happens in any system where the providers have political influence, as is manifestly the case in the US. Then new competitors can't lower the price because it's set by corrupt politicians and more efficient providers aren't allowed to return the difference to patients who choose them.

And you can screw up in both directions at once. The list price is too low for a high cost of living area so you can't have a provider in a convenient location for people willing to pay more, but is too high for a provider in a less expensive area who then has no incentive to pass on their lower costs to price sensitive consumers. If the government tries to pay them each a different amount then patients have no reason to avoid the higher cost one which increases healthcare spending.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by CorrectHorseBat » Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 5:56 AM UTC

Swizec wrote: post #200

caconym_ wrote: post #173

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> The thing that boggles my mind his how this 25-year-old grandfathering thing works. I think it's totally fair to allow old vehicles on the road that may not comply with today's standards, but did comply when they were originally made and titled (in the US). But there's no good reason we need to allow people to import old, unsafe vehicles like this. If safety was a primary concern for U.S. regulators, large consumer…

> I am not aware of any comparable headline figure for how pedestrians fare against them but I would put money on their pedestrian safety performance USA is world no1 at killing pedestrians. Most pedestrian deaths per mile driven of any country . 7000 pedestrians die in traffic collisions annually. Freakonomics just started a 3-part series on this. https://freakonomics.com/podcast/why-is-the-u-s-so-good-at-k...

If I look at the numbers [1] I highly doubt the US is even in the top 50. It's probably just the most pedestrian deaths per mile driven of any country that reports pedestrian deaths per mile driven.

Edit: look good at the deaths per mile driven, most countries with horrible numbers in other columns don't have any data in that column which is why the USA ends up as 4th. Look at any other statistic and you'll see the USA is far from the worst.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic...

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by caditinpiscinam » Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 5:57 AM UTC

kelnos wrote: post #158

I went back and forth on the idea of sharing such a negative take here, but... here goes. > You'll need to find a truck that is at least 25 years old. In the US, cars more youthful than that must comply with FMVSS (safety standards). > No air bags, [...] power steering, or crumple zones. I feel like this sort of thing is a fantastic illustration of the irresponsible level which most drivers (in the US at least; can't…

Are there companies making modern versions of these vehicles (with the same small size and great fuel economy but with modern safety features)?

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by nrp » Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 6:03 AM UTC

voisin wrote: post #59

If I found a middle eastern lamp and rubbed it and out popped a genie granting me three wishes, my first would be for there to be a modern electric Kei truck broadly available in North America. I am only slightly exaggerating.

I have good news for you (assuming they survive long enough to ship): https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/13/23757902/telo-truck-elect...

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by spike021 » Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 6:18 AM UTC

chromatin wrote: post #112

analog31 wrote: post #34

I live near a Big Ten university in the Midwest, and they use these little trucks and vans for their maintenance crews. I imagine that for an institutional user with multiple of them, things like getting approval and spare parts is easier. One thing they probably help with is that a major university typically has horrific parking, but you can cram one of those little trucks into a place that a car won't fit into.

If I am thinking of the same Big 10 university (orange and black mini trucks sometimes with IIRC green flashing lights), the interesting thing is that they are also driven on public streets connecting the different parts of campus. Of course? When you are the largest employer in the state (indeed, when you are the state), I suppose rules don't apply.

I'd imagine it depends on street rules.

Here in California I used to work for San Jose State University when I was attending. I worked an oncampus job where I was expected to drive a golf cart to and from campus (the job office itself was located off campus, about a mile away, during my tenure there). So I drove up to 25mph with that electric cart max on the street, and then also drove it all over campus on sidewalks. Very usable and pretty roughly equivalent to a kei car.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by spike021 » Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 6:20 AM UTC

There's a small coastal town near San Francisco where a bunch of the farmers/ranchers/other locals imported a fleet of Suzuki Carry's, IIRC. I was chatting with one owner and they told me most haven't bothered registering them since they're basically only used on private properties or the very small, low traffic roads into and out of town.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by Shaanie » Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 6:26 AM UTC

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #232

HWR_14 wrote: post #228

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What if the helmets were giant (unlike bike helmets, the rider doesn't have to carry the entire weight or air resistance). Then, instead of filling the helmets with hard styrofoam, we could fill them with something even softer, maybe a compressible gas. People could obviously store them in the vehicle. It might be annoying to wear them all the time, so we could mandate that cars detect when you are about to be in a c…

You're kind of making their point for them. It's dumb to mandate helmets or any other specific technology because it removes the possibility for something better or for context-based decisionmaking. Suppose you ride your motorcycle into the desert and then lose your helmet into a canyon. Your phone is dead. Your choices are a thirty hour walk out of the desert which might cause you to die of dehydration, or riding yo…

You can make the exact same example, except someone without a driving license finds a car. I doubt you're opposed to mandating driver licenses, though.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by walrus01 » Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 6:33 AM UTC

bobthepanda wrote: post #217

walrus01 wrote: post #98

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Different US states' very unique interpretation of laws on certain things is something I have seen that needs explanation to foreign visitors and people who immigrate, from countries where there is one consistent legal code and regulation system of various products at the national level... Marijuana regulations and firearms (and limitations of different types of firearms) are two obvious examples. Other things like p…

This is mainly a federal distinction though. IIRC some federal countries like Canada or India have even greater variance between states.

Canada has one unified criminal code nation wide. For instance a province can't make weed legal or enact laws banning certain guns that are ok in others. The weird regional variations in Canada are like, ICBC as monopoly car registration + vehicle liability insurance in BC. Quebec language laws are another weird regional thing.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by AnthonyMouse » Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 6:34 AM UTC

Shaanie wrote: post #248

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #232

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You're kind of making their point for them. It's dumb to mandate helmets or any other specific technology because it removes the possibility for something better or for context-based decisionmaking. Suppose you ride your motorcycle into the desert and then lose your helmet into a canyon. Your phone is dead. Your choices are a thirty hour walk out of the desert which might cause you to die of dehydration, or riding yo…

You can make the exact same example, except someone without a driving license finds a car. I doubt you're opposed to mandating driver licenses, though.

You're not making the point you think you are. All a driver license proves is that you took a basic class as a teenager and have been paying the government a fee since then. You could get the same benefit just by adding the class to the high school curriculum.