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How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by rootusrootus »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #130
rootusrootus wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget the small penis accusation. I have an F250, which I drive about 2000 miles a year, almost 100% of the time it has a >30ft trailer behind it. But that one time that the stars align and I need it for a grocery trip, a bunch of people are thinking "see, that guy doesn't need a truck" and it reinforces whatever internal monologue they have going. Meanwhile, approximately everyone here routinely drives alone…

I'm sorry that people are occasionally, silently, but unfairly judging your choice of vehicle, presumably. I don't think that counters the fact that many do people drive gigantic vehicles they will never need, though. > Meanwhile, approximately everyone here routinely drives alone in a vehicle capable of carrying 5-7 people. (and right about now, someone is about to reply with 'ride a bike, cars suck!') You've manage…

> You've managed to lump everyone who disagrees with you into either the "hypocrite" or "fanatic" boxes.

Not intentionally. Just the ones who loudly proclaim that most people driving a pickup don't actually need it. To everyone else who is just driving the car they feel best suits their needs, more power to them. This also includes the vast majority of pickup owners.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by UlisesAC4 »

asdfigandfiono wrote: post #3

This goes to show just how superficial and backwards the American car industry is. You can do the job of a $50,000 pickup using a machine that is half the size of a Honda Civic, costs $10,000 new, gets 40 MPG, fits in any parking spot, is easy to load, and sells for around $10,000 new. But they look weak and girly . Vanitas vanitatum, omnia vanitas.

While doing less emissions related to ICEs.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by blincoln »

chihuahua wrote: post #13
mdtusz wrote: post #4

In the PNW these are absolutely everywhere and for good reason - they're exactly what most people need when they need a truck bed for hauling capacity. Plus, many are 4/AWD and have relatively high clearance so they're great adventure wagons for forest roads and getting out there. If a manufacturer made a truck similar (or slightly larger - not much room for people 6' and over in them) available for the market here,…

If by "they are absolutely everywhere" you mean "I've seen one of them in 25 years of living here", then I agree.

They seem to be popular in rural areas of Western Washington. I saw several while visiting the San Juan Islands last year, and have spotted them fairly frequently on the Olympic Peninsula - along with other fellow RHD Japanese imports like the Mitsubishi Delica and Nissan Skyline.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by rootusrootus »

throwaway72762 wrote: post #94
rootusrootus wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget the small penis accusation. I have an F250, which I drive about 2000 miles a year, almost 100% of the time it has a >30ft trailer behind it. But that one time that the stars align and I need it for a grocery trip, a bunch of people are thinking "see, that guy doesn't need a truck" and it reinforces whatever internal monologue they have going. Meanwhile, approximately everyone here routinely drives alone…

I dunno, sounds like your beef is with the folks who buy the same truck as you for no reason other than the look, not the folks who are seeing and mocking that trend.

The latter seem to exist in far greater quantity, however. I live in a suburban neighborhood with plenty of trucks, and I see them doing truck things all the time. Towing boats, travel trailers, fifth wheels, or hauling stuff. I can't think of a single example within a quarter of me where someone owns a truck for looks. These are all just garden variety F150s and similar, rarely the higher trim models, and not a one of them is a bro-dozer.

I won't deny the silly bro-dozers exist, they definitely do. But at least in my area they are just a fraction of the total trucks on the road.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by avar »

manuelabeledo wrote: post #109
avar wrote: post #87

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Cars are in fact larger partially due to advanced safety features, in particular doors, pillars etc. have gotten a lot thicker over the last 25 years. > Larger cars aren't inherently safer. Yes they are, you're probably better off in a crash without a seatbelt in a bus than in the highly safety rated mini the bus crashes into. Newton matters.

> Cars are in fact larger partially due to advanced safety features, in particular doors, pillars etc. have gotten a lot thicker over the last 25 years. I would like to see a citation on this. Car doors have gotten larger partly because there is so much more stuff going on there than 20-30 years ago, mostly a bunch of new electronics. They are also larger because, well, the cars are larger. > ... you're probably bett…

> I would like to see a citation on this.

E.g. [1] has a decent overview of the side impact saga for the Euro NCAP since 1997. I'm less familiar with how the American version has kept up.

In any case most mass market American cars target the Euro NCAP's safety tests, so it affects car design across the pond too.

> [...]mostly a bunch of new electronics.

I can't think of any electronics in doors than weren't there in 1995.

Powered windows have gotten more common, but if it weren't for safety considerations the thickness of doors should have reduced since then, as all the electronics involved are smaller now.

> Fact is, a current generation Toyota Camry is effectively safer than an early 2000s F-150.

Probably, but some quick internet searching reveals that if you add the weight of one person to the modern Camry it's probably heavier than the 2000s F-150, or thereabouts.

What I was referring to is that crash safety tests don't account for crashes between differently sized vehicles.

That's probably intentional, as regulators don't want to cause an arms race towards ever bigger cars.

1. https://cdn.euroncap.com/media/53189/19-0278-the-development...

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by causality0 »

chiph wrote: post #78
greggsy wrote: post #15

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Is that for safety or market protection reasons?

Not an expert on Oregonian law, but my theory is that Oregon's motor vehicle law references the federal NHTSA regulations, and Kei vehicles laughably don't meet them (exterior lighting, crash performance, theft resistance, emissions, and so on). An owner might be able to use it as an off-road vehicle only (no title, no tag, with maybe only comprehensive insurance), but that's not the point of buying one for a lot of…

That's such bullshit when motorcycles are allowed on the road.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by mitthrowaway2 »

inconceivable wrote: post #113
waiseristy wrote: post #24

These HN threads about trucks are amazing. It’s like watching the same movie over and over again * Kei trucks are the coolest. Big gubment is making it so we can’t register them due to protectionism! * Chicken tax chicken tax chicken tax * Big trucks cause more crashes because reasons! * Trucks are just lifestyle vehicles and nobody actually needs or uses them Over and over and over again

lately i've seen a lot of people legitimately complaining that trucks look "too aggressive" and are "scary". it just makes me laugh.

They're probably talking about the front grille being a vertical wall taller than the standing height of a 5-foot woman, which would knock you under the wheels without the driver even seeing you.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by matthavener »

chiph wrote: post #78
greggsy wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that for safety or market protection reasons?

Not an expert on Oregonian law, but my theory is that Oregon's motor vehicle law references the federal NHTSA regulations, and Kei vehicles laughably don't meet them (exterior lighting, crash performance, theft resistance, emissions, and so on). An owner might be able to use it as an off-road vehicle only (no title, no tag, with maybe only comprehensive insurance), but that's not the point of buying one for a lot of…

NHTSA has a 25-year rule that allows a car old than 25 years to be imported without those considerations. You can definitely import them legally in Texas. I find it funny that we disallow these new smaller trucks, but we allow folks to jack up the suspension on an already large American truck 24 inches, install a grille guard, and it's still considered legal.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by gonzo41 »

waiseristy wrote: post #24

These HN threads about trucks are amazing. It’s like watching the same movie over and over again * Kei trucks are the coolest. Big gubment is making it so we can’t register them due to protectionism! * Chicken tax chicken tax chicken tax * Big trucks cause more crashes because reasons! * Trucks are just lifestyle vehicles and nobody actually needs or uses them Over and over and over again

Well, the Chicken tax chicken tax chicken tax point is worth complaining about.

I feel like there'd be a titanic shift in US pickup market if they could get a Hilux.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by koolba »

causality0 wrote: post #136
chiph wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not an expert on Oregonian law, but my theory is that Oregon's motor vehicle law references the federal NHTSA regulations, and Kei vehicles laughably don't meet them (exterior lighting, crash performance, theft resistance, emissions, and so on). An owner might be able to use it as an off-road vehicle only (no title, no tag, with maybe only comprehensive insurance), but that's not the point of buying one for a lot of…

That's such bullshit when motorcycles are allowed on the road.

Dark take with just enough data to make it a talking point: motorcycles allow the rider to fly off and die from a traumatic brain injury, while preserving their organs.

If you’re crushed in a Kei car they probably won’t be able to salvage much.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/01/health/organ-donation-motorcy...

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