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Dusk OS: 32-bit Forth OS. Useful during first stage of civilizational collapse

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Re: Dusk OS: 32-bit Forth OS. Useful during first stage of civilizational collapse

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Post by tired_star_nrg »

hillytop wrote: post #4

The rationale is silly, but the project itself looks interesting. No need to tie it in to civilization collapse though, an odd marketing angle really.

I mean we already see the issues with international supply chains failing during covid, and we haven’t even really seen the significant impacts from climate change. Yeah, most people on HN aren’t going to really need this in the next 5-10 years as we’re predominantly in locations that will be maintained the longest. What about people in countries that already barely have functioning supply chains? This could be immediately useful for them.

Re: Dusk OS: 32-bit Forth OS. Useful during first stage of civilizational collapse

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Post by supazek »

Neat project. I tend to believe things like this will be more useful 50-100 years post-collapse though. And it seems to me the post-apocalyptic computer niche will be more likely filled by the vast quantities of RPis left in junk drawers rather than the dozen or so computers that will have been prepped with something like this.

Re: Dusk OS: 32-bit Forth OS. Useful during first stage of civilizational collapse

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Post by MagicMoonlight »

I_am_uncreative wrote: post #5
hillytop wrote: post #4

The rationale is silly, but the project itself looks interesting. No need to tie it in to civilization collapse though, an odd marketing angle really.

Yeah, this is an interesting project, but the author's belief that society is going to completely collapse by 2030 is... odd.

And he's removed all the updates where he said the collapse was happening and then turned out to be wrong.

He's basically just another doomsday cultist.

Re: Dusk OS: 32-bit Forth OS. Useful during first stage of civilizational collapse

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Post by jacquesm »

After civilizational collapse you won't need computers, you'll need bows, arrows and basic agricultural tools that don't require motors. Forget about electricity or anything requiring it, that will be the least of your problems. Assuming there is still sunlight enough to keep photosynthesis running. If not, you may want to find some place high.

And if you are going to do something like this then you really should make it entirely self hosting and forget about networking and communities and such because by the time you need it those will all be gone and the best you'll be able to do is sneakernet. I hope your USB sticks will be EMP proof... papertape?

Re: Dusk OS: 32-bit Forth OS. Useful during first stage of civilizational collapse

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Post by johnklos »

I love the ideas behind this. I think too many people are more than happy to jump on the bandwagon du jour without spending a moment to consider how much of the world can't, for some reason or another, participate.

Running NetBSD without languages like Go and Rust clearly shows that compiling and running portable software is perfectly doable. If the Internet should collapse, just having a drive with a full set of NetBSD sources plus all the tarballs downloaded for source compiles in pkgsrc would make it possible to re-bootstrap dozens of targets. That's not possible when we treat the world as a fast amd64 with many gigabytes of RAM.

I'd love to see how far Dusk OS can go.

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